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All right, we are going to get started.I would like to call to order the Berkeley City Council meeting.
Today is Tuesday, March 11, 2025, and we're going to start with the roll.
Okay, calling the roll.
Council member Kesarwani? Here.
Taplin? Present.
Bartlett? Here.
Tregub? Present.
O'Keefe? Here.
Blackaby? Here.
Lunaparra? Here.
Humbert? Present.
And Mayor Ishii? Here.
Okay, and Council member Humbert is participating in the meeting remotely this evening, so we just need to run through our our script real quick.
Council member Humbert is participating remotely pursuant to the Brown Act as amended by AB 2449 under the Just Cause Justification.
Quorum of the Council is participating in person at the noticed meeting location, and Council member Humbert has notified the Council of his need to participate remotely.
Council member Humbert, please provide a general description of the circumstances relating to your need to appear remotely, but do not disclose any medical diagnosis, disability, or other confidential medical information.
Sure, thank you Mr.
Clerk.
I have tested positive for a communicable respiratory disease and don't want to be present with other folks to transmit it.
Okay, and just please disclose if there is anyone in the meeting location with you who is 18 years of age or older.
There is no one here in my home office with me.
Okay, and then Council member Humbert will participate in the meeting through both audio and visual technology.
Thank you, Mayor.
Thank you so much.
Okay, so it is the first meeting of March, which means we'll be reading our land acknowledgement statements.
We've had it so that we are taking turns, and so tonight is Council member Tragov's night to read the land acknowledgement statement.
Thank you, Madam Mayor.
The City of Berkeley recognizes that the community we live in was built on the territory of Huchun, the ancestral and unceded land of the Chochenyo-speaking Ohlone people, the ancestors and descendants of the sovereign Verona Band of Alameda County.
This land was and continues to be of great importance to all of the Ohlone tribes and descendants of the Verona Band.
As we begin our meeting tonight, we acknowledge and honor the original inhabitants of Berkeley, the documented 5,000-year history of a vibrant community at the West Berkeley Shell Mound, and the Ohlone people who continue to reside in the East Bay.
We recognize that Berkeley's residents have and continue to benefit from the use and occupation of this unceded, stolen land since the City of Berkeley's incorporation in 1878.
As stewards of the laws regulating the City of Berkeley, it is not only vital that we recognize the history of this land, but also recognize that the Ohlone people are present members of Berkeley and other East Bay communities today.
The City of Berkeley will continue to build relationships with the Lajon tribe and to create meaningful actions that uphold the intention of this land acknowledgement.
Thank you, Councilmember.
We now have the closed session report out, so bear with me.
It's quite a few paragraphs long.
The City Council meeting met in closed session on March 10, 2025, pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9, subsections D2, and provided directions to Outside Workers' Compensation Council and approved a settlement by compromise and release, with the release of future medical care as to a workers' compensation matter, BER2200052 and a WCAB case number ADJ17945960.
The Council also gave direction to Outside Workers' Compensation Council and approved a settlement by compromise and release, with the release of medical care as to a workers' compensation matter, BER2400023 and a WCAB case number ADJ18246762.
Similarly, the Council gave direction and approved a settlement by compromise and release, with the release of future medical care or any alternative by stipulations with a request for award with open future medical care as to workers' compensation matter, BER2300048 and a WCAB case number ADJ10746024.
The Council also provided directions and approved a settlement by stipulations with request for award with open future medical care as to workers' compensation matter, BER2100079.
In addition, the Council provided direction to the City Attorney, pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9, subsections D1, to settle the following lawsuits in an amount not to exceed $287,500, Tesari v.
City of Berkeley, Alameda Superior Court, case number 23CV030502.
I also wanted to take the opportunity to report out on a couple of items from January 23, 2024, and December 3, 2024, closed sessions where final resolution has been reached.
The City Council met in closed session on January 23, 2024, pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9A and 54956.9, subsections D1, and directed the City Attorney to settle with Service Employees International Union Local 1021 CSU PTRLA for back pay of the remaining unpaid value of the 3% CalPERS cost-sharing reduction retroactive to July 29, 2021, plus 10% simple interest.
Last paragraph, okay.
The City Council met in closed session on December 3, 2024, pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9A and 54956.9, subsections D2, and directed the City Attorney to settle with Public Employees Union Local 1 for back pay of the remaining unpaid value of the 3% CalPERS cost-sharing reduction from August 8, 2021, to April 16, 2022, plus 10% simple interest.
Thank you all.
That is the closed session report out.
So now we move on to the ceremonial matters.
I know, it's a mouthful.
So there is a proclamation for the American Red Cross Bay Area Chapter month, which is March 2025, and it's going to be received by John Earthy, who..
Are you here today, John? Thank you so much.
Yes.
And I think my staff is grabbing the proclamation.
So while they're doing that, I also want to say that we're going to be adjourning in memory of Polly Armstrong, a former District 8 City Council member, and that we will not be adjourning in memory of Marty Schiffenbaum because we're going to be moving that to the next meeting so that his widow can attend the meeting and be here in person.
And now I will read the proclamation.
Thank you.
All right.
We are recognizing the American Red Cross.
Whereas March is American Red Cross month when we recognize the compassion of people in Berkeley and renew our commitment to lend a helping hand to our neighbors in need, and whereas with 1,638 volunteers in Alameda County, the American Red Cross assisted or responded to 163 disasters, assisting 305 families.
And through our Sound the Alarm program, the American Red Cross installed 988 smoke alarms, making 291 homes safer and trained 2,544 youth and adults through Pedro and preparedness programs.
And whereas Alameda County residents donated 30,572 units of life-saving blood, hosted 1,154 blood drives, and trained 13,893 citizens in first aid, CPR, AED, and aquatics, and provided 455 case services to military members and their families, and provided humanitarian aid internationally.
And whereas this work to uplift our community is made possible by those who selflessly answer the call to help whenever and wherever it is needed, we hereby recognize this month of March in honor of their remarkable service and ask everyone to join in their commitment to care for one another.
Now therefore it be resolved that I, Adina Ishii, Mayor of the City of Berkeley, do hereby declare March 2025 to be American Red Cross Month in the City of Berkeley.
I think I'm going to give this to you.
We'll take up a couple pictures, but I want to give you a moment to respond as well.
This is live.
Good show.
Thank you so much, Mayor.
Thank you so much, Council.
Thank you so much, the citizens of Berkeley.
We have installed 3 million free smoke alarms across the country.
3 million.
These actually speak to you.
Latest technology, and they have saved over 2,200 lives, specifically since 2014.
If you know somebody who cannot afford smoke alarms or is at risk, you can go on the internet and simply look up American Red Cross smoke alarms, and a crew like me will come out to your home, fully assess, and fully install your home, one in every bedroom, always leading to bedrooms.
This weekend, this Saturday, our wonderful students from UC Berkeley Red Cross Club will be going around the San Pablo Park area and installing smoke alarms in over 30 homes, and we do that every week across the country.
Thank you.
We will be back in just a moment.
I think there's another adjournment in memory so I just want to get the name correct here.
Thank you.
We will also be adjourning in memory of Mel that poor as well.
Thank you very much council member.
Okay we are moving on to city manager comments.
No comments tonight.
Madam Mayor.
Thank you so much.
And I believe we.
Okay, so there's a total of 10 speakers on non agenda matters.
5 from in person speakers and 5.
On the zoom who are.
Attending remotely, so I'll draw the 5 in person speakers.
And if you are on the zoom and wish to.
Comment on an item that is not on the agenda.
Please raise your hand.
At this time.
I'm sorry, I.
I think that we are going to take these public comments, but the special meeting that I was referring to earlier will not be on this agenda.
It's on the consent calendar.
Sorry, I have to vote to add it.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
It will be on the agenda.
So now would not be the time.
That's right.
So it will be on the agenda.
So now it's not the time because this is public comment on non agenda matters.
Thank you.
Clerk.
I was unclear what the question was.
Okay, the 5.
In person commenters.
Okay.
It, uh, summer Brenner and Atlanta hour back.
Okay, if our 5 in person.
Public commenters can come up to the front.
Please just come up here to the side.
Any order is fine.
Okay.
So, please go ahead and feel free to adjust the mic that we can hear you 1 minute per person says it 1 minute for each of the 10 speakers.
Good evening, Berkeley City Council.
I'm here with a lot of my colleagues, activists for peace and justice in the city of Berkeley.
Good evening.
I'm here with a lot of my colleagues who have been murdered by Israel in Gaza.
This is just a small sample of the children, ranging in age from 0.
Infants to about 7 years old.
We just took a small sample.
I'm here with a lot of my colleagues who have been murdered by Israel in Gaza.
The reason why it's because we are making a plea to you to not stay silent during what is clearly a genocide going on that we're paying for with our tax dollars.
I'm here with a lot of my colleagues who have been murdered by Israel in Gaza.
We need that money at home.
For housing, education, health care and all the other things.
Thank you very much for letting me make a comment.
Thank you for your comment.
Appreciate it.
Good evening.
My name is summer burner and I'm going to see my time to Cynthia.
We are one of the premier peace activist groups in the nation.
We're a feminist peace group and we are always working for peace.
We don't take sides in these conflicts.
We're not on the side of Hamas.
And people accuse some of us activists who want peace as being anti-Semitic or on the side of Hamas.
That's nothing could be farther from the truth.
We simply want peace.
We want the killing to stop.
We want the starvation to stop and it's getting worse.
It's not stopping.
So we really need the city council not to be silent on this.
Those of us who I've lived in Berkeley almost 50 years and I need the council to say something.
It doesn't have to be the peace and justice resolution that was passed in September.
It can be one that's more of your choosing more of your liking, but you cannot be silent in the face of genocide.
That simply is not going to be okay with us.
Thank you for taking my comment.
Thank you.
Hello.
Good evening.
My name is Majdi Gaith.
I'm a Palestinian American Muslim and a business owner here in Berkeley.
Me and my brothers worked hard to build our coffee roaster and specialty coffee shop.
It was defaced four times between July and August of last year.
And my friend Nagin's business was defaced with Fuck Islam.
So before breaking my fast in probably 14 minutes, I just want to read the Fatiha from the Quran because Fuck Islam.
I want you to be aware that Berkeley high is walking out tomorrow because the safety supposed safety officers are harassing and brutalizing the students.
So you need to know about this and I'd like to see the rest of my time to Sheila.
Hi, my name is Sheila.
I'm a resident of District 2.
I've been a resident of Berkeley for 38 years.
I have three kids who have all gone through the Berkeley school district since kindergarten.
Tonight, I'm here as a member of the Peace and Justice Commission.
As you all know, the commission passed a resolution last September, which was never heard and then unnecessarily ignored and then dramatically admittedly delayed because of staff and council.
Our commission has been told by staff that this resolution will go to the rules and agenda committee on April 1 and then council on April 15th.
I am here on behalf of a number of my fellow commissioners and droves of voting members of this community to thank you in advance for hearing and placing your vote on this item at council on April 15th.
I am also thankful to Rex, Okia, the city clerk and our chair, Pastor Dwayne for ensuring a safe and peace and justice meeting last week after the fear of many of us commissioners had for our safety.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comments.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comments.
I had to leave because of the late hour.
Am I able to speak in his place? You see it at his time to me.
Whatever the rules are.
Yeah, I'm sorry, but I'm glad I asked.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
We can pull a new card to replace tomorrow.
Well, Cynthia already spoke.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We got to we got to move along, folks.
Thank you.
Good evening.
So, Ilana started to talk about what's happening.
It'd be really great.
If some council members were checking with Berkeley high, because what's happening is they're complaining.
There's been like 3 incidents where resource officers in conjunction with Berkeley police officers.
I want to talk about how 1 of the students from was trying to access mental health services on the Berkeley high campus.
He was attacked.
He was, it was great traumatic handcuffing, all this kind of stuff.
As a matter of fact, BPD also attacked an unhoused woman.
At old city hall, who had.
Access to the bathroom.
At the city building on center street.
She was arrested.
6 officers, 6 officers.
I saw the citation.
I can show it to you.
It happened.
Thank you for your comment.
Thank you.
Okay.
Folks.
Okay, so.
Now, going to the.
Speakers on zoom.
The 1st speaker is a rom James.
You should be able to unmute.
I just want to know, let you know that the city council where I live.
It's absolutely a Israeli occupied city council.
They've refused to discuss a ceasefire resolution.
I'm asking you to show guts in Berkeley where I went to school and agendize a resolution against the genocide that's going in Palestine.
Do not eviscerate our 1st amendment by refusing to do that.
If you do that, you're playing into the hands of the Zionists and the Trump administration.
Please at least allow the conversation.
No genocide in our name.
I really appreciate you doing that standing up for the civil liberties of all of us.
No genocide in our name in Palestine.
No genocide in our name in Palestine.
I thank you very, very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comment.
And just for folks online that didn't hear earlier, I had said that we would be bringing this forward in a special meeting.
So just know that this is coming.
To counsel other online comments.
Yes, the next speaker is.
Eva, Eva, you should be allowed to talk.
Hi there.
Can you hear me? Yes, thanks so much.
I'm sorry.
I'm on my bike commute back from.
I just want to let you know that I did publish an article a couple days ago about what happened with the assembly district 14 delegate voting.
And some issues that that arose there.
I'm a little concerned that this is being swept under the rug.
I think there is a basis for civil rights complaint.
Based not only on the location, which is certainly not neutral, but the convener.
I do hope that the council will take a look at the possibility of a resolution urging anyone doing elections in the city to choose purely secular sites because otherwise you, you, you create the possibility for lawsuits.
And I think that's it.
Thank you.
Actually, that's it for.
Online.
Okay, okay.
It's a lot going on in the audience here.
If folks could just make sure to turn off your phones.
Try if you're going to have a conversation, please take it outside.
I just want to be respectful.
I know there are folks here trying to hear.
I'm sorry, please, please don't call out.
Please, please don't call out we we've had we've taken public comments.
Okay, yes.
You want to do that.
I took seven comments.
I will take three more but I don't want anyone else to call out in this meeting.
Okay.
Mark, are you looking up some just checking procedure? It's it's it's discretionary.
You don't have to take extra speakers.
If you don't want to, I will take three more speakers, but I will ask that folks.
Please don't call out if you have a question, you're welcome to walk up and whisper to the, to the city clerk over here, but we need to be respectful.
Okay.
There's a per in person.
Speakers we have Daniel Borgstrom, Liz Berkley.
Oh, Liz Berkley artist.
And Pete Fred.
Okay.
Can those three people come up, please? Okay.
Speakers any order, Daniel Pete Liz anywhere.
Okay.
You have one minute.
Thank you.
City Council.
So, we're my group is here tonight just to.
Encourage the city council to adopt the anti Muslim hate emergency resolution.
All these hateful elements we've seen recently.
And ongoing genocide in Palestine is the most compelling example of anti Muslim hate in the world right now.
If there's a resolution states, you are serious about anti Muslim hate and Berkeley in Berkeley and beyond.
You must agendize and adopt the ceasefire and embargo arms embargo resolution passed by the peace and justice commission last September before moving on to a performative measure.
We have a motion to adopt the ceasefire.
Otherwise, this is just a self serving gesture meant to distract people from our unwillingness to address the single most important human rights issue of our time.
I think cleansing is a crime since the so called ceasefire in Gaza over 40,000 people have been expelled from their homes in the West Bank.
I'm Daniel from vets for peace.
I live here.
I'm a Berkeley resident.
And I want to say that I'm here to speak for 34 people who will not who cannot be here tonight cannot be here ever.
Hopefully they're here in spirit.
They were crew members of the USS Liberty who were murdered by the Israeli Air Force and Navy.
These attacks happened in June 1967.
The attacks last about two hours.
There's been a huge cover up about this.
Our government did everything to cover this up.
Pretend it was a mistake and accident.
It was not a mistake.
It was a deliberate attack that lasted two hours by both the Air Force and the Navy.
Thank you for your comment.
Our last public comments.
I'm Liz and I'm saving my time to Marjorie.
Thank you.
Good evening, honorable mayor and city council members.
First, I do want to thank all the people who cared enough about this important issue to come out tonight to let you know that we are concerned about this issue of our wonderful Berkeley.
Our progressive Berkeley who has been known to take a stand all these years for peace and justice and even has a peace and justice commission.
And it's taken so long for you to get around to passing a ceasefire resolution, even a ceasefire resolution.
And so we must, we must speed this along, honorable mayor.
They have cut off the electricity again and all the food and all these, all those children that were represented by those flags.
They're dying.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comment.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
So, city clerk, I believe that public comment from employees unions is coming in virtually.
So I just want to see if they've been identified.
I see the person on the on the zoom there.
Thank you.
Jocelyn.
From you, Jocelyn, you should be able to just to unmute.
Hi, can you hear me.
Yes, yes.
Great.
Good evening mayor and council members.
My name is Jocelyn I'm a city worker maternal child health worker.
I'm a member of SEIU 10 to one the CSU PTR LA chapter.
And, and I'm speaking on a position, you know, that's just been been the position of my union which represents 60,000 members about Palestine.
We're in a strong principled stance and you know we've been here using our union comment time every month, calling on the previous iteration of council this council.
I just can't believe month after month after month after month.
We're still here talking about this.
And then to hear recently about the Islamophobic hate crimes that affected it really wasn't the first time we know that physical therapy office Jaffa coffee has been targeted multiple times repeated times.
It's heartbreaking, but what really breaks my heart is that this, you can't ignore the context that this is happening in a vacuum, where Berkeley, California, of all places has failed to talk about a genocide.
It's, it's, I'm, it's unacceptable.
So I'm really, really hoping and praying that this will be a wake up call for for you all to try to get onto the right side of history at belatedly as it is.
I do want to say speaking.
I guess I'm just speaking for myself right now.
That's a Jewish American.
If you all make a proclamation about ceasefire.
l n or if you make a proclamation about condemning these Islamophobic hate crimes.
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I, as a Jewish American, do not need to be patted on the head, do not need to be placated and told that you still like me by making those proclamations.I really urge you to just take a principled stance, as my union has done, and tell it like it is.
And that's been the position of SEIU 10-2-1 and it will continue to be.
I'm really looking forward to Mayor Ishii, to thank you for your invite to meet with you, along with our political director of our local, representing 60,000 people, to meet with you.
Really looking forward to it and all the rest of the council members.
When, I'm not going to say if, when you choose to have the moral courage to take a principled stance on this, we will support you.
And so give me a call and I'm happy to meet with any of you and I'll bring our political director along.
We're here for the long haul.
I also just want to speak briefly on item 18 and the other items addressing affordable housing.
You know, our union has always supported everything in this realm that Berkeley has been working on.
And as we all know, rents in Berkeley are unaffordable for most city workers, for teachers, for working class people, these rents are already unaffordable.
And so I really, really strongly urge you to do anything that you can to protect workers like me and all the other city workers by supporting item 18.
That's it for me tonight.
Thank you all so much.
I guess I should have mentioned the COPE coordinator for our chapter.
And yeah, thank you for your time.
I look forward to all of you doing the right thing.
Thank you.
All right, take care.
Thank you for your comments.
Are there other employee unions here in person or online? No? Okay.
And I know our city auditor doesn't have comments this evening, so I will move us on to the consent calendar.
There are a couple of things here I want to say before we get into that.
First, in consultation with Council Member Tragem and his office, we're withdrawing item 15 from today's agenda due to a conflict of interest.
So the other thing is that potential conflict of interest.
Thank you, Council Member.
And there's also supplemental agenda material that's being brought as well.
And Mr.
City Manager, if you could speak to this, please.
Thank you, Madam Mayor.
Each of you should have a copy of the supplemental materials that I'm submitting and requesting your authorization for, which requires the two-thirds majority to have included in the packet.
And it's basically just a clarification on item number 6, indicating that the three items that we're doing public solicitation for, plan checking services, billboard relocation agreement, and generator maintenance services, are all encompassed within one attachment.
It kind of looks like there's three, but there's really only one that describes each of them briefly.
So I just want to make that clarification via this.
Thank you very much.
And so I believe we need to actually vote on this to put it onto the agenda to add it, the supplemental materials.
Is there a motion? I move approval.
Second.
Motion from Council Member Blackabay and a second from Council Member Trageb.
And since we have someone on line, we need to take the roll, please.
Okay, to accept the supplemental material, Council Member Kesarwani.
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you call my name.
Yes.
Taplin? Yes.
Bartlett? Yes.
Trageb? Aye.
O'Keefe? Yes.
Blackabay? Yes.
Lunapara? Yes.
Humbert? Yes.
And Mayor Ishii? Yes.
Okay.
Okay, thank you very much.
Okay, we will now take public comment on consent calendar and information items only.
Oh, okay, there's also adding Council Member Trageb's item to the agenda.
I'm sorry, can you say that again? So Council Member Trageb's urgency item.
Oh, thank you.
Yes, there's also an emergency item, which I don't actually have in front of me, but we also need to vote to put this on as well.
I move the inclusion of the urgency item to the agenda.
Do we need, this is done, right? Yes, yes, now we're referring to the urgency resolution introduced by Council Member Trageb condemning the recent incident along with all their acts.
I move that we add urgent item condemning the recent incident along with, condemning a recent incident along with all acts of Islamophobia in Berkeley and reaffirming unwavering support for the Muslim community in Berkeley and beyond to the agenda.
Okay, thank you very much.
Thank you, Mr.
City Clerk.
Can we just clarify because we don't have the physical in front of us.
I just want to make sure that we're doing this correctly.
Yes, so this item was submitted early enough where it was published in Supplemental Communications Packet Number 1.
It's also posted on the website with the agenda for tonight.
Okay, thank you very much.
I move that we add the item to the agenda.
Yes, Council Member Kastarwani seconded.
Any comments before? Okay, all right, so we need, we should roll to add the item to the agenda.
Yes, thank you.
Council Member Kastarwani? Yes.
Kaplan? Yes.
Bartlett? Yes.
Trageb? Aye.
O'Keefe? Yes.
Blackaby? Yes.
Lunapara? Yes.
Humbert? Yes.
And Mayor Ishii? Yes.
Okay, motion carries.
Item is added to the agenda.
Okay, so all right, now we will be taking public comment on consent calendar and information items only.
Thank you so much.
So right there.
All right, go ahead.
I'm Margaret Shuler.
I'm here as a member of 350 Bay Area, the Berkeley Hub, and I'd like to comment on consent item 16, the first year free fill empty storefronts.
Even though you just spent significant time reducing the referral list, I agree and commend your recommendation to send it for referral for further discussion.
And with the understanding that you won't wait too long, that residents deserve more local storefronts and the city can use additional sales tax.
The alternative is to local services is to drive more, have more delivery trucks tearing up our infrastructure, and it reduces the opportunities residents have to bike or walk to local services.
And as we continue to experience breaking temperature records, we must do all we can to mitigate local emissions, especially those associated with transportation.
Thank you for consideration.
Thank you.
Thanks for your comments.
Good evening.
My name is Jonathan Minster.
I'm honored to serve as the senior director of government affairs at JCRC Bay Area, the largest collective voice of Bay Area Jews representing hundreds of Berkeley residents.
Our member organizations include Congregation Beth El, Nativo Shalom, and Beth Jacob.
Today, I'm here to ask the council to support the urgent item and to continue showing compassion and principled leadership by keeping our community united by keeping our community united as outside antagonistic forces seek to divide us against each other.
And speaking against hate is the right thing to do.
Last week, an awful Islamophobic incident occurred in District 4, and it must be condemned.
Sadly, this incident is yet another example of rising hate crimes occurring in the state, which, according to the most recent attorney general report, have also targeted groups including the Black, Jewish, Asian, and LGBTQ communities, among others.
In the face of rising hate, JCRC believes the role of local elected leaders is to condemn incidents, foster inclusion, engage in intercommunity education, and assure we don't perpetuate the divisiveness that outside political actors seek.
Berkeley has a strong track record of this, including United Against Hate Week, Holocaust education, and the collaboration with law enforcement.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Okay, folks, please be polite to our speakers.
Thank you.
Good evening.
My name is Kit Saganor, and I'm the chair of the Open Government Commission, and I'm here to speak on item 4, the updated commissioners and board members manual, not perhaps an exciting document, but one that does make a difference in how commissions and boards operate.
And I mostly want to thank the city clerk's office for entertaining a variety of recommendations that came from the commission, including that change to the title so that it's clear that it's board members and not just commissioners.
And, of course, there are some other things that we would like to be done that may be a little more substantial down the line, but this is a very important document, and the commissions are important and do some really wonderful work.
And we hope to see a stronger support in many ways for the work of the commissions and boards to benefit the city of Berkeley.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thanks, Kit.
Go ahead.
Hi.
Hello, commissioners, council people.
My name is Meryl, and I'm a former teacher.
I live in D1, and I'm also a Berkeley Unified School District volunteer.
So I'm here to speak about the Berkeley Unified School District housing city preferences overlay, and I request that this item be moved to action because it's really important that everyone is very clear and there is transparency in the leasing practices for this item.
I have corresponded with city officials who have given us very good information.
However, there are some different perspectives about what it means, what this overlay will mean for the actual leasing practices at the adult school site.
We believe that it is really important to have Berkeley Unified School District.
I'm sorry, your time is up.
Thank you so much, but your time is up.
I'm really strict about time.
I want to be super consistent so we can be respectful for everyone.
Thank you.
Appreciate your comments.
Thank you.
Okay.
All right.
You've been given a minute.
So anyway, I was just clarifying that it would be good for the city council, everybody among us, to be very clear how what's called Berkeley Unified School District affordable housing will be leased.
And it does seem to be that, you know, there will be the ability for BUSD employees to be there, but not totally.
So it would be good to discuss it.
And finally, I wanted to also agree with Margo Shuler and very excited to see item 16 and hope that it comes back soon because our neighborhoods need vitality and economic development.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
Madam Mayor, City Council, I will cede one minute to Nagui Mosette.
Hello, my name is Eva Diep and I cede one minute to Nagui Mosette.
Okay.
Okay.
A third minute, so that makes four.
Thank you.
Yes.
Dear Council and Mayor Ishii, I stand before you on the eve of the takedown of free speech and other liberal democratic institutions in this country, which has already begun on our college campuses.
Over the weekend, a Palestinian activist student at Columbia, a green card holder, was detained pending deportation by the Department of Homeland Security for his political speech.
DHS is also working with Canary Mission, an anonymous doxing site that conflates anti-Israeli activism with anti-Semitism to identify targets.
They are also using AI and facial recognition software to identify activists for harassment and deportation.
This is a train that is coming for all of us, and this is just the beginning.
I commend you, Council Member Traigub, for wanting to stand against hate and Islamophobia, but your resolution, as written, does little to address the root causes of this issue.
Let me draw you a clearer picture.
The acts of targeted vandalism at my clinic, which started last spring and summer, resulted in me coming before this body in July and sounding the alarm and begging for due attention by the Council, by the then Council, due to these acts of hate.
My comments were largely ignored by both Mayor Eregim and the majority of Council at that time, save a few, like Council Member Lunaparra.
It is only now, after television cameras came to town to broadcast to the world this ugly and embarrassing side of Berkeley, that you are stirred to take action.
Such a timeline casts a shadow on the spirit of your intentions.
There has been a concerted effort throughout Berkeley to silence the voices of those who object to genocide and ethnic cleansing ongoing both in Gaza and the West Bank today, and it is not only Muslim-owned businesses.
I recently learned that a poster for peace in Gaza was torn up outside a Methodist church.
I've also spoken with other business owners who told me they wanted to put up such posters in their businesses, but are afraid of being victimized like our clinic has.
Let's call these hate crimes what they are.
Political violence intended to intimidate Americans from exercising their freedom of speech.
Your failure to pass a ceasefire resolution at the time when it was crucial to stand on the right side of history has emboldened those who wish to silence our American right to freely express our opinions.
It has empowered a fringe group of pro-war zealots backed by powerful lobby groups who want to isolate and weaponize their oppression and justify the banality of evil, normalizing hate and the erasure of an entire group of people.
If you truly want to write a resolution against hate and Islamophobia and protect your constituents against political violence, then you must be straightforward and clear and name the inhumanity which is being done with impunity today in Palestine, a majority Muslim state literally going through an ethnic cleansing.
We have seen how during the Weimar period in Germany, acts of violence against Jews were normalized, Jewish people were dehumanized, and the world slipped into accepting their ethnic cleansing and genocide as the Third Reich did so.
And it did not stop there.
Ethnic minorities such as the Roma people, political dissidents, communists, and even those with disabilities were targets.
Groups not unlike Canary Mission encouraged citizens to inform on and denounce their neighbors and friends.
Hate starts with one group, but once normalized quickly extends to others.
All those who stood by and did nothing were complicit in those acts.
I am here fully ready to back this proposal, but only if it gives meaning to its lofty title and makes good on its claim to reaffirm Berkeley's unwavering support for the Muslim community in Berkeley and beyond.
So I'm going to finish her statement because it says unwavering support for the Muslim community in Berkeley and beyond.
So please add the following provisions to your resolution so that it reflects Berkeley's opposition to the Muslim hate and Islamophobia that is festering in our country and threatening to undermine the republic and our very democracy.
Please add this amendment.
Whereas U.S.
policy towards the Palestinian people has enabled dehumanization, violence, ethnic cleansing, starvation, and genocide, and supporters of these hateful practices have been emboldened to harass and intimidate those who speak out against these policies in our community in Berkeley.
Therefore, be it resolved that our city supports the rights of Muslims around the world to be free from ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and genocide, and we declare our support for a permanent ceasefire, arms embargo, and an end to the occupation of Palestine.
Thank you.
Thank you both for your comments.
My name is Tim O'Brien, I'm a resident of Berkeley, but I'm here on behalf of Imam Sundiata of the Lighthouse Mosque, who was not able to make it.
He wanted to come, but he had a previous engagement.
He's very concerned about the timing of this resolution without having passed a ceasefire resolution.
I will read his statement.
As someone who grew up in the city of Berkeley, I've always felt that sense of pride that I came from a city that usually was on the forefront of so much of the fight against oppression and for equal rights and the free speech movement.
However, now I look at a city that has not joined the call of so many other cities to recognize the humanity of the Muslims who are being scapegoated and vilified, whether they be in Gaza or in Iran, by politicians as they seek out votes by instigating cultural division in America.
With the total disregard for the humanity of our marginalized Muslim citizens that have endured a year plus of sorrow, I really wish that the city of Berkeley could have the courage to stand up for all our citizens.
I'm sorry, your time is up, Tim.
Thank you for the comment.
Okay.
I really wish that the city of Berkeley could have the courage to stand up for all of our citizens, whether they're Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Rastafari, Christian, Buddhist, Yoruba, agnostic, or atheist, and declare that we see the suffering and understand the pain of its Muslim residents.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I cede my minute to Siman Shamji.
Good evening, Council Members.
My name is Siman Shamji, and I'm a long-time resident of Berkeley who has worked in the criminal legal system for over 30 years.
I am also Muslim and an immigrant of South Asian descent from Tanzania.
All three of my children went through the Berkeley Unified School District.
My husband and I moved to Berkeley about 25 years ago to raise our family here because of the sense of inclusivity and commitment to social and racial justice associated with Berkeley.
But now, there is a palpable aura of repression in this city as a small minority and its lobby groups exert an outsized influence over all city policy.
And we are seeing this influence reverberate across the country, a frightening reality being unleashed on people of conscience, especially students, for speaking up for their values.
I am disappointed in this Council.
I'm disappointed that this Council has not found its way to denounce genocide.
That is not the Berkeley I came to raise my children, and I will not support a Council that does not stand against all hate, both in Berkeley and beyond.
The time for you to act is now, and not hide behind calls for further discussions and meetings which preserves the status quo.
I believe that these recent hate crimes against Muslim-owned businesses have come out of your refusal to take a stance for peace and justice for the Muslim community around the world, and your inaction has emboldened these forces of hate.
If you're sincere about supporting the Muslim community and do not insult us by adopting this performative and politically expedient measure before first agendizing and passing the more important ceasefire and arms embargo resolution put forth by the Peace and Justice Commission last September, thank you.
Thank you.
Hello.
Thanks, Igor, for the urgent item, and please go further with it.
Local anti-Muslim hate crimes didn't happen in a vacuum, but are directly related to activism for Palestine, and also to your failure to have passed a ceasefire resolution, which emboldened – which failure emboldened those who wish to silence our free speech, empowering pro-war extreme zealots.
The way that we end hate is by locking arms across differences together, to insist that freedom and safety is for all of us, including Palestinians and their supporters, no exceptions.
Demolishing homes funded by our taxes – that's a hate crime.
Destroying Gaza hospitals, blowing up water treatment facilities – hate crimes paid for by our taxes.
It must stop.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comment.
Good evening, everybody.
I've been a Muslim 24 years ago.
In other words, I've been a Muslim for 24 years.
I believe in Allah.
I believe in Muhammad, peace be upon him.
I believe in the afterlife, and I believe everything that we do or don't do in our current life is going to be paid for one way or another in the afterlife.
So I would urge you, when you have a chance to vote for a ceasefire or a resolution, to vote as if your life depends on it, because at some point, either here or in the hereafter, it will.
Thank you.
Good evening, board members.
I'm here to speak on Item 16, the Fill Empty Storefronts Act.
What I'm seeing in my neighborhood in CD1 is business after business disappear, close, and leave an empty hole.
So I'm very concerned to see that the Land Use, Housing, and Economic Development Policy Committee, for some reason, which is not made clear to me and not in your minutes, has decided that this Fill Empty Storefronts Act – which I don't know if that's the best thing ever, but at least it's some indication that the city has some concern about the growing dearth of businesses and the suffering of small businesses in the city.
So I don't understand why this is being pulled, why this is not being acted on, and as other people have said, I really would like to know that this Council cares about the small businesses that are struggling.
The latest one in my neighborhood is Berkeley Lighting on San Pablo, which may be disappearing soon.
So this is troubling to see Council members deciding to pull something for some reason and then not scheduling action.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comment.
Hello, my name is Gabriela, and I'm here to say words.
Words are pretty.
Words are easy.
Why are my community, Muslim community members that have just been targeted by hate, taking this opportunity to talk about other Muslim hate, other hate, just period, because they, people in Palestine, people anywhere, an extension of us, we care about these people.
And it is beautiful to say we stand against hate, we do this, but without action, without stopping and dismantling the issues that allow for a genocide to continue, for speaking against divestment or not calling to stop the genocide.
Thank you.
Hello, Mayor and Council.
I would like to draw your attention to the public safety aspects of the resolution and the Council not having passed one.
It doesn't only affect our community members and businesses that have been vandalized with hate crimes.
On Sunday, February 23rd, I was outside of Zellerbach Hall on the UC Berkeley campus, right by city property, Bancroft Avenue.
And I watched Israeli men with Israeli flags harassing and intimidating Americans who were exercising their free speech rights.
I was appalled that any foreigners with foreign flags would be allowed to do that.
And then I thought about the accounts of the attacks on peaceful groups at UCLA by Israelis, including with steel pipes.
Then I thought about the attacks on students at Columbia University by Israelis with a chemical weapon that Israelis use against Palestinians called skunk spray.
And then I realized it's just a matter of time, perhaps, we know these folks are here now, they've already been harassing citizens in Berkeley.
Will it lead to more violence? So that's why I'd like to draw your attention to the safety aspects.
And I really feel people are emboldened.
And I think the city needs to step up and protect us, for goodness sakes.
They're people who are very violent, and they really mean business.
Damaging businesses is one thing, getting up in people's faces who are expressing themselves is another.
And the next step, we fear, is violence.
There were people there who are legal observers.
They told me that these people, they'd seen them before, and they were Israeli operatives.
So we know they're here.
So please take steps to protect us from that violence and our students on the UC Berkeley campus.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
I think we have a few more in person, and then I think we might have some online.
Okay, go ahead.
Good evening.
I'm here to speak on item 14.
My name is Courtney Powell, and I'm the policy manager at Resources for Community Development, or RCD, as we're known in the field.
We're a Berkeley-based affordable nonprofit housing developer, and we're here to speak in support of this item today.
As we all know, preserving and protecting affordable homes is a key strategy towards ending homelessness and improving housing stability for low-income households in Berkeley.
It's really important that the city is able to maintain its existing supply of affordable housing, which is, again, in very short supply compared to the need in the community, to maintain that as safe and modern homes over a long lifespan.
And the transfer tax exemption study proposed in item 14 would facilitate nonprofit operators in doing just that, in keeping affordable homes affordable for the long term.
So I ask for your support for this item tonight.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Council members, we used to chant that words without actions turn to lies.
And although Commissioner, Council Member Trago, I appreciate your gesture, but I think that, unfortunately, it will become a hollow gesture if we don't link that gesture to the cause of the problem.
Unfortunately, the silence of this Council and the U.S.
policy towards the Palestinian people is what has enabled the genocide, is what enables the destruction of that culture and those people.
And it is our silence that enables U.S.
policy.
We have to separate ourselves from that.
We have to distinguish our city from Trump.
We have, at the thought of 5,000 Palestinians a day being forcibly relocated with the consents and the urging of our government, we have to separate from that.
So please add the resolution, the amendment.
Thank you.
Your comment time is over.
Good morning or good evening, Council.
My name is Audrey Byrne, and I am a law student at UC Berkeley.
I want to support the resolution condemning anti-Muslim hate in our community.
And I also want to urge this Council to support a resolution against genocide, supporting a ceasefire.
I think it's clear from everybody who's spoken tonight that as the leaders of our community, as the people who represent us and represent our values, it's clear what the people of Berkeley want and what our values are.
And I'm not sure what else we need in order to pass a resolution against genocide and against all the hate that's been going on against Muslim people in our community.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comment.
Well, Councilor Tragob's resolution is well meaning.
Let's all be honest.
As others have said, it's no coincidence that Joppa Coffee and Berkeley Community Physical Therapy, places that have been outspoken for the plight of the Palestinian people, are the businesses that have been most vandalized and most.
Segment 3
Anti-Hate Resolution.This is the anti-hate resolution that is targeted for hate crimes.
The genocide is the root of the problem.
So I would urge you to add the amendment that Alana Auerbach and Nagin proposed to this anti-hate resolution.
They are not outside antagonists.
The JCRC is.
You guys should not be listening to Zionists.
And you should add those whereas clause and therefore be it resolved to the amendment.
And when we have a council member that goes to the inauguration of 47, even though he stated that he didn't get to go in because it was canceled.
I don't know if I believe that to be true.
But the fact that you went to D.C.
for it to begin with is a problem.
And he's a racist, fascist, freaking pig that doesn't give a crap about any of us.
Wants to, you know, get rid of black people, anything black, anything, you know, Palestinian.
Doesn't support humanity.
It's just appalling.
And you all have to pass this resolution immediately.
Thank you for your comments.
Council member.
Your time is up.
Your time is up.
Please stop screaming.
Please stop screaming.
Council member Davila.
Council member Davila.
Your time is up.
Your time is up.
Please let the next speaker speak.
That was amazing, Cheryl.
I just want to give context to everything that's been said.
So I was born in San Francisco, raised in American Canyon, Napa Valley.
I went to school in Berkeley.
But I've been to the West Bank part of Palestine, also known as Judea, maybe 40 times.
I've lived there from 1997 to 2000.
Between the Muslim quarter of the old city of Jerusalem and occupied Hebron H2 in the West Bank.
I just want to give 30 seconds to my cousin, Rod.
He's 16 years old.
Him and my three other cousins threw rocks at Israeli occupation forces, also known as IDF.
And he's been in jail for 63 days.
And I just found out four days ago that he's going to do a year in jail for throwing a rock at some Israeli jeep in his village, our village.
We don't have due process.
We're not allowed the right to bear arms like the police officers carrying firearms.
Even though we have that here as a second amendment.
There's no due process.
There's no city council.
There's no kangaroo court.
We don't have rights.
Thank you.
Okay.
I see.
Just give me 30 seconds.
So basically what I'm describing in the West Bank, you have 3 million Palestinian Muslims and Christians.
This includes the famous city of Bethlehem where Jesus was born.
Whether he was Israeli, Palestinian, Jewish, Abrahamic.
I just want to say that this two-tiered legal system is illegal.
It's inhumane.
It's so crazy.
I mean, it speaks Jim Crow.
It speaks South Africa.
And you guys can't pass a little ceasefire resolution.
I see LGBTQ flags.
I see Black Lives Matter flags.
Land acknowledgments with the U.S.
and California flag.
It's just people are laughing at you guys.
And from business owner to fellow Berkeley resident to Cal alumni, I have no agenda.
There's no object.
I just want to ask you, especially people who have put forward this resolution or someone's office who did a piece on our Jaffa coffee roasters and never published it.
I'm not going to say your name and which district you're from.
Just go to Palestine.
Go see it for all the lies.
If I'm lying, come look me in the eyes.
Man, you're lying.
I'm not lying.
We're not lying.
I have 25 seconds that weren't left by the person I ceded my minute to.
Okay.
So, first, on the commissioner's manual, I'm hoping that this is just the first phase.
There needs to be additional revisions to have consistency between commissions.
Second, on the BUSD preferences and the city BUSD workforce housing, the report doesn't explain how this applies with the BUSD preference framework.
And I'm hoping that homeless families within BUSD, within the schools, are being addressed and that also undocumented immigrants.
I think your time is up.
We will call until homelessness will be addressed.
Thanks.
I know you said you had 25 seconds left.
Thank you.
Okay.
I know Councilmember — oh, wait, sorry.
Councilmember Perkins.
Yes.
Okay.
Eight speakers.
I'm sorry.
And just for folks that are online, this is for public comment and consent calendar and information items only.
Okay.
First is a speaker with a phone number ending in 538.
I'm sorry.
Mark, could you just let me know how many folks are there? Nine.
Thank you.
Currently.
I just want to do a quick check with Council to see — sorry, before you go, how are folks feeling? Do we need to take a break? I don't think the captioner needs a break.
Okay.
All right.
Well, we're going to keep moving on.
I just want to give folks an opportunity because we've been sitting for a long time.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Okay.
I will talk about the community physical therapy attack.
What we have, the total idiocy of Jesse Aragin and Berkeley City Council for doing this monster called Trump.
They're firing hundreds of thousands of employees.
These people have mortgages.
People have homes, have kids, have education.
This is unreal.
Jesse Aragin, I curse you.
Council people, I curse you for what you did to the country.
You're destroying the country.
This is a mall for Russia.
This is a puppet for Putin.
You are unforgivable.
You also caused me millions of dollars of damage for not acting up.
You have been branded for the last couple of years.
Really sorry.
You shamed my own city.
I've been working 62 years.
I never have seen it.
I love the new mayor.
She's a beautiful lady physically and mentally and everything else.
But, Aragin, you shamed not only Berkeley City Council, but all of us.
I'm sorry.
Your time is up.
Okay.
Next is Sophia DeWitt.
Good evening, council members.
Reverend Sophia DeWitt.
I'm speaking on behalf of East Bay Housing Organizations and speaking in favor of item 14 on the consent agenda.
Which would begin a study of a possible transfer tax exemption for 100% affordable properties.
That would make it easier.
For those affordable developers.
To keep existing affordable properties in the city of Berkeley.
Affordable.
By reducing costs.
When they are making a renovations.
Upgrades or needed repairs.
So I'm speaking in favor of item 14 on the consent agenda.
Which would begin a study of a possible transfer tax exemption.
For 100% affordable properties.
That would make it easier.
For those affordable developers.
To keep existing affordable properties in the city of Berkeley.
So I'm speaking in favor of item 14 on the consent agenda.
Which would begin a study of a possible transfer tax exemption for 100% affordable properties.
When they are making a renovations.
Upgrades or needed repairs.
Thanks so much.
Thank you.
Okay.
Next is.
Our director of police accountability.
Hansel Aguilar.
Good evening, Madam mayor and council members.
My name is Hansel.
And I serve as the director of police accountability for the city of Berkeley and the secretary for police.
I'd like to express my gratitude for Mr.
Randy Wells for agreeing to take on the important challenge on serving on the police accountability board.
This commitment is vital to supporting the board's essential work in the community at large.
Second.
I'd like to thank the council for appointing a new member to the police accountability board.
This is important.
In step in ensuring that the board can fulfill its crucial role in our community.
However, I'd like to respectfully raise some concerns.
The board's current composition, while the staff report indicates that there will only be one vacancy remaining.
The current count is five members.
This appointment will bring the board to six members.
Still short of its full capacity of nine.
These vacancies caused by turnover on the board percent, significant challenges for the board in our office to effectively carry out the work.
Additionally, I understand that some new board members.
Some new council members have not reappointed.
The board members chosen by the predecessors.
I kneeled it from someone in the audience to give you another minute.
Oh, solely.
Sorry, continue on.
And so you have another minute.
Okay.
Sorry.
Additionally, I understand that some new council members have not reappointed the board members chosen by the predecessors.
Should those council members choose to appoint new individuals.
This could potentially to further turnover and destabilization.
The stability on this board is essential for efficiency and continuity.
So I respectfully urge the council to consider prioritizing fill these vacancies as soon as possible.
For those council members who may not be planning to appoint new individuals.
I encourage the reappointment of existing board members whose experience and knowledge are invaluable to the board's function.
Thank you for your attention and commitment to supporting the work of the board and office.
Thank you.
Thanks for your comment.
Next is.
Rabbi cat.
Zavis.
Can you hear me? Yes.
Great.
Thank you so much.
My name is rabbi cat Zavis.
I implore you to adopt the amendment offered by Nagin and Ilana.
My Jewish tradition.
And teaches that we must love and care for the stranger and the other, the way to overcome hate is through love.
Love of this kind isn't easy or soft.
It isn't a Hallmark card.
This is a fierce fearless love.
A love that requires us to name what is namely that the underlying cause of hatred is the genocide in Gaza and apartheid in Palestine.
Unless and until we take a stand against his violence, hate will only grow against both Muslims and Jews.
This is perhaps not easy for you as politicians, but as community leaders, you must take a stand.
The community has been begging you for moral leadership.
It is the only path against hate and towards love.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for your comments.
Okay.
Next is Maddie.
Hi, my name is Marty.
I'm Israeli.
I'm an American.
I'm the father of three.
My husband.
One here in Berkeley.
I salute you for taking a stance against.
I would want to encourage you to take a stand against all forms of hate, including the hate.
And the vitriol that you see right here.
In front of you in this room against me.
And my heritage and my country.
Of Israel.
Anti-Israel and anti-Zionism hate.
Has been proliferating in the boardroom in front of you.
Hate crimes in front of you in that very room.
And that is something that you need to address.
Hate cannot be stopped with other hate.
It has to stop with love.
And I urge you to take the step.
Not towards the resolution against.
For a ceasefire.
But for a resolution for peace.
We should be.
Aspiring for peace.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for your comment.
Next is James.
Okay.
So.
My true name is Avram Finkelstein.
And as a Jewish man, I can tell you.
That the only way that anti-Semitism will end.
And not continue to expand.
Is for us to say no to Zionism.
For us to say no to the apartheid state of Israel.
For us to say no to our own countries.
Funding of this vile genocide.
The people in the West bank are having their homes destroyed.
Of course.
Jews cannot feel safe in this country when we don't take a stand.
And we have to all stand together, including that gentleman.
That says he's Israeli.
If he cares about peace.
Then you must say no to the country of Israel.
But in my estimation.
Must be eliminated.
A one state solution is the only way to go.
Eliminate the state of Israel.
Now.
Let's then begin to live side by side.
One vote.
In a true democracy.
Why are Israelis? Zionists so afraid of the democracy.
Why do they not want to apply? Next speaker is Kelly.
Kelly.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And I want to thank.
Council members.
Okay.
Thank you.
And I want to thank.
Council members, Taplin and Luna para for co authoring with council member.
Triga the urgency.
Item.
And I also thank all the public for their comments and support.
I want to thank you for the updated commissioner's manual.
And I also want to thank the commission for their comments and support.
And I'm afraid that the manual is not posted because.
The commissions are not posting the minutes until the next month.
So I hope that that will be resolved with a new manual.
And as for number 16 for empty storefronts, we're in a heap of trouble and I'm afraid that.
There are a lot of people who are losing their jobs.
And I'm afraid that there are a lot of people who are losing their jobs.
So those are my comments.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
And you would contact the secretary of the commission to get those minutes.
All right.
Just to check.
Five comments left.
I've lost track to.
Okay.
Thank you.
Next is a deep Mar.
Okay.
Thank you.
Honorable members of the council and mayor.
I'd like to speak on item 10 on the constant calendar of the BUSD workforce housing.
I'm a D one.
Residential and business neighbor of the side, I served on the design advisory committee for this project.
I'm also a parent of a BUSD student.
The proposed integration of the city and BUSD preference list.
I'd like to speak on item 10 on the constant calendar of the constant calendar.
Of BUSD workforce housing.
Is there a clear and unambiguous.
First right of refusal.
For BUSD employees, both for the initial occupancy.
And future openings.
BUSD.
Has given up scarce school and for this project.
Yet there was no adequate outreach and opportunity for public discourse.
I would like to speak on item 10 on the constant calendar of the constant calendar of the BUSD.
I'd like to speak on item 10 on the constant calendar of the constant calendar.
Of BUSD employees.
And for this project, I'd like to speak on item 10 on the constant calendar of the constant calendar of the BUSD.
In order to have.
More public information and discussion about that.
If I have a few seconds left.
I'm sorry.
It's actually up.
Thank you for your comments.
Next is Maria.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
You set.
Any of these lofty.
Peaceful possibilities.
If we don't behave peacefully.
And respectfully.
And listen to one another.
And you set the space.
For us to do that.
And I can't thank you enough.
Because as I keep stressing.
We are all.
We all.
Are concerned.
We are all.
We are all looking for.
Many of us are angry.
But then if we start to fight again.
We'll never achieve what we're looking for.
So please.
Please receive my appreciation.
For all the people that are here.
That are trying to come together.
Which is what we must do.
In order to achieve this.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
We are going to move to public comment.
We'll have 3 speakers on.
Thank you.
I will now take comments.
Kind of council member Humbert has had.
Or had his hand up for quite a while.
So I'm going to start there.
Okay, thank you, madam mayor.
And I, we missed.
The opportunity for me to read a statement.
About Polly Armstrong.
And so I'd like to start out my comments on the consent calendar.
With that, with that statement.
I'm really honored to serve as one of.
Polly's successors.
As council member for D8.
It may seem strange.
But I think a good place to start.
With our remembrance for.
Polly Armstrong is her defense.
Of Tinky Winky.
Yes, the Tinky Winky.
The Teletubby.
The one that walked around with a purple suit on and a purse.
I actually didn't think about that until this week.
And one of the national issues that council member Armstrong.
Touched on during your tenure.
On council.
Was pushing back against Jerry Falwell.
Absurd and bigoted vendetta.
Against an innocent.
Children's TV character.
And Polly brought this fighting spirit.
And positivity to city council.
And everything she did in life.
And she's a wonderful example.
To all of us as we face.
These new and rising threats.
Of intolerance and irrationality.
As district gates council member from.
94 to 2002.
Polly was progressive, but pragmatic.
I'd like to feel like that's part of DH culture.
And I'd like to continue.
That approach.
But Polly was hardly just about political gestures.
As council member, she was instrumental in helping V8.
Continue its recovery from the 1991 firestorm.
And she helped revitalize downtown.
She was a champion for the downtown Berkeley arts district.
And as head of later.
Of the Berkeley chamber of commerce.
She turned the organization around.
And helped to greatly strengthen our business community.
She excelled at getting down to brass tacks.
And working across ideological divides.
And I hope this is the energy that set that stays with us.
As we reflect on her life and achievements.
I first met Polly in 1999.
After our wheelchair bound neighbor.
Sharon Spencer.
Died by traffic violence, crossing Ashby at Piedmont.
Which was then without any safety enhancements whatsoever.
She joined with us in a protest.
That literally shut down the intersection.
For a half hour.
Her courage inspired me.
To work to improve pedestrian safety.
A mission in which I'm still engaged.
And thank Polly for that.
I want to extend my condolences to Polly's family.
Thank you to John Armstrong, Polly's husband.
Her daughters, Amy and Amanda.
Her sister, Carol.
Her nephews, Robert and Michael.
And her granddaughters, Lucy, Margaret, Susanna.
And Annie.
For being so generous and sharing Polly with us.
She gave us.
Polly gave so much to our community.
We're indebted to her.
And to you.
Her family for the time, energy and light she gave to all of us.
I want to end with a quote from Polly.
When she was interviewed about the Tinky Winky episode.
When you see bigotry.
And self-righteousness out there.
You really need to stand up to it.
Even when it's absurd.
I hope we can all live by those wise words.
And her passionate hard nose.
But always amiable example.
Polly, your legacy lives on through your family.
And all of the wonderful things you did.
For your community here in Berkeley.
You're irreplaceable.
And you are greatly missed.
Thank you.
That's my statement about Polly.
And I could go on and make comments on the rest of the consent calendar.
Or I could let somebody else have a turn and do that later.
What do you think? I think you should finish your comments.
And thank you very much for the very touching statement about Polly.
Thank you, Madam Mayor.
On the consent calendar.
I want to say just how strongly I support.
The measure brought.
By council member.
Tree gub.
Along with council members, Lunaparra and Taplin.
Condemning.
They're horrible.
Racist.
Anti-Muslim incident.
Visitor upon our community member.
I will be voting.
To keep that on the consent calendar and voting for it.
As to item.
Number three, my appointment to the police accountability board.
I've appointed, I think a very strong candidate.
To succeed.
Our former.
Former DA appointee.
Council member Blackaby.
So I really want to welcome my new appointee.
Randy Wells to the tab.
You have my gratitude for taking on.
This important work.
Let's see.
And then I would like to be marked as.
On item.
15.
Item 15 has been withdrawn from the.
Okay, thank you.
And finally, I wanted to confirm that with respect to.
Item 16.
It's on consent calendar.
Correct? Mr.
Clark.
To take no action.
Yes, I was before we voted.
I was just going to clarify, but I'll do it now that.
On items 14 and 16.
We have adopted the policy committee recommendation.
That would be the standard procedure, but if there's any.
Difference to that standard procedure to, if a council member wants to.
To note that, but that's that's what we would be doing.
We would be adopting the policy committee recommendation on 14 and 16.
Thank you very much.
That's all I have.
Thank you.
Council member Keith is next.
I don't say 1.
Okay.
Okay, then.
Oh, my gosh.
This.
This thing is.
All right.
Well, I've got council member Trega Taplin.
So, I don't know who was 1st council member Trega then.
Thank you.
So we're going to go council member Trega Taplin.
And then I think it's Lunaparra Blackaby.
Okay.
Thank you.
I would like to.
Thank.
The council and my fellow council members.
Bartlett and O'Keefe.
For co-sponsoring.
My referral to the city manager.
To make a recommendation for further council action.
Thank you.
I would like to thank my colleagues for considering.
Supporting this on the consent calendar.
And I would like to thank.
Members of the nonprofit, affordable housing community and land trusts who have written in, To make sure that a highly technical item.
Was explained.
Sufficiently to hopefully earn the councils.
Unanimous support.
This is one of those examples of well-intentioned policy, which I was involved in crafting.
And now measure W which supports.
Homelessness services.
Unfortunately, there was an issue that we did not anticipate.
When the item was crafted.
Around the requirement for nonprofit entities.
That do a hundred percent affordable housing.
And we have rehabilitate.
Existing housing.
And we have to pay.
This as well, even though.
The intent here is to really maximize the amount of affordable housing.
Safe, sustainable, habitable, affordable housing that's available.
So this item is here.
As a, As a, as a.
As a first step towards a study.
By the city manager.
To see if we can't streamline this.
Because it, the transfer tax was never intended.
To employ.
Nonprofit affordable housing developers.
And then I would.
On the.
This month marks Ramadan.
The holiest month of the year.
In the transition of our Muslim neighbors and friends.
Two Sundays ago.
As I was leaving on if tar.
Breaking the fast ceremony to which I was invited.
I learned that a small business in my district was vandalized.
But hateful words cloud on its window.
The following morning.
I joined my co authors council members, Luna power and Taplin.
In writing the resolution that we are presenting today.
Many in our community have sadly experienced.
An alarming rise in hate field, the tax and crimes.
An insult to 1.
Is an injury to all.
Today.
It is important to call this particular anti Muslim hate crime.
And all acts of Islamophobia.
Out for what they are.
Unacceptable hateful acts.
And condemn them in no uncertain terms.
Hate and division.
Are not Berkeley values.
Period.
To all of my neighbors who have experienced Islamophobia.
Please know that it does not speak for our community.
And that we are enveloping you in light, love and friendship.
Today and every day.
To all those who observe.
I wish you a Ramadan.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Council member.
Thank you.
I move adoption of the consent calendar.
2nd.
Thank you.
We should.
We have other comments.
So, I just.
Thank you.
I wanted to talk a little bit about the.
Hate crime that occurred the other day.
Because, you know, primarily, I was sad and angered on behalf of the victim of this crime.
And those in the community who feel harmed are harmed by this Islamophobic act.
I was also ashamed because I know that I sit on a body that has not done all that it can do to push back against the rising anti Muslim and anti Arab hate in Berkeley.
For over 17 months, we, as a body have taken 0 action symbolic or material to oppose the genocide, ethnic cleansing and occupation in Gaza and throughout Palestine.
For a long time, the reason given not passing a resolution condemning this was because it would divide our community.
But here we are not having done anything with the divided community and a spike in hate crimes.
This particular business has been vandalized 3 times previously.
These heinous acts specifically involved defacing pro peace and proceeds fire signs, including the desecration of a drawing of a Palestinian baby calling for a cease fire.
I believe that our failure to condemn the murder of thousands of Palestinian children emboldened them to deface a drawing of one.
I believe that passing a resolution condemning the atrocities in Gaza would help heal our community, bring people together and send the rising height of hate in Berkeley.
I know the peace and justice commission has passed a resolution that will be coming to agenda and rule soon.
I'm supporting this urgent resolution before us today because I agree with every word.
And I also know that these words alone are insufficient.
Only action and a Gaza resolution will truly bring our community together and help end this growing anti-Muslim and to Palestinian and anti-Arab hate in Berkeley.
I hope this body will put our money where our mouths are and commit to the words about the responsibility of public officials that we're endorsing tonight by passing a Gaza resolution.
Thank you.
Sorry, did you have other comments? My comments.
Thanks.
That was it.
Okay.
Sorry, Council Member Blackaby.
Thank you.
Thank you to my colleague, Council Member Lunaparra.
And thank you to Council Member Tregeb for authoring the anti-Muslim hate resolution.
Proud to support it.
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I agree that as a body, as a community, hate has no room in Berkeley.Islamophobia has no place in Berkeley, and we should condemn it in all forms, anywhere, anytime that we see it.
I also condemn hate against our LGBTQ members.
I condemn hate in racist tones.
I condemn hate and anti-Semitic hate speech in Berkeley.
And I think, as a community, we do need to find ways to come together, because hate has no place here, and we should look to find ways to solve our problems together by coming together.
But I thank you for the resolution today.
A couple other items, and I'll be brief on the consent calendar.
Thank you to Councilmember Humbert for making his appointee to the Police Accountability Board.
I just urge my colleagues to, if we do have vacancies, to make appointments to bring the body back to full membership.
I'll also note that we have a kind of quirk in the charter that, as a Council, we can also make an alternate appointment to the body, which I don't think we've made in the past.
So I'd also endeavor to bring a nomination back as an alternate, which will also help kind of bridge some of the gaps, even while there are not permanent members on the body.
And then, lastly, on item 16, again, I appreciate that we're withdrawing that.
We're not moving forward at this point, but again, as someone who cares a lot about how do we kind of keep Berkeley's economy moving forward, how do we support an innovation economy? How do we continue to attract and keep businesses here that taking action on the empty storefronts and revitalizing downtown is a priority of mine, a priority of this Council's.
And so I look forward to whatever measure comes back to us down the road.
So, with that, I'll support the consent calendar.
Thank you.
Council member council member Bartlett.
Thank you, madam mayor.
Apologies vice mayor.
Oh, I forgot that too, since no one ever says it.
Okay, now the tonight is a great night.
I'm really happy about item number 9.
this is the home key application.
We're going to submit to acquire a building in South Berkeley that will house homeless veterans in support of housing.
This is a wonderful opportunity to advance care provision in Berkeley in the housing sector for our people.
I'm happy that the land use committee, which we serve on was able to positively recommend some good items.
We vetted them.
We're really proud of them to fill into storefronts act, which gives a break to storefronts.
They can get it going.
And because our, our, our fees are sometimes very high, and we know that the demand, the retail demand is so soft that we're losing stores every month.
It seems.
So this is a great opportunity to advance our economic development to city.
And then 2nd, the, as my colleague mentioned, the chance for tax exemption, very important for housing is hanging on by a thread.
The federal government is threatening the low income housing tax credits and other other financing mechanisms.
So, giving them a break on acquiring the land to build the housing for people, I think is very important.
So, thank you for bringing it forward.
Councilman and then also on this topic here.
My colleague want to thank you for for waiting to the first meeting of the housing committee.
Thank you for for waiting to the frame and it seems as if the, the person who whose story was may not be on your side all the time politically, but to step into it and and support her and other people who are in the community feel threatened and feel unsafe.
It's very important that we take a stand that we take measures like this and I congratulate you and when all our people to feel safe in this community, and know that we have your back, no matter who you are and what you are.
And I just want to thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Council vice mayor.
Are there any other comments? Okay, so I just want to make sure that actually there's 1 thing I'd like actually our city manager.
If you could address some of the questions that we're having around the housing, because I understand that there are some folks that are confused and I don't want to move it to action.
But I just want to make sure that we have a conversation about the housing preferences.
Sure, thank you for the opportunity to do that mayor and I have spoken with a couple of times, including today and essentially the way that it would work is that the housing preference policies would be layered on 1st.
So they have 4.
1st and the city of Berkeley preferences would be layered on top of that.
And so the effect of that would essentially be that within the priorities, the city's priorities would be layered in.
So that essentially, if you had somebody, this is just an example who 2 people who were within the priorities and 1 was a teacher who had just moved here from Kentucky.
And another was a teacher who had been redlined out of out of South Berkeley and had been living outside of Berkeley for years.
That person would have priority over the person that just moved here.
So it's kind of making them work together, but the ones would apply 1st, and the cities would apply.
And then if they're, if not, all of the units are filled after the priorities are layered in then, and there's any remaining units in the city's preference would be used to fill those remaining units.
That's pretty much it.
Thank you very much.
Because I felt like I was not going to be able to explain that as well as you did.
So, thank you.
And council member.
Yes, I just wanted to ask for clarification.
Mr.
city manager, the, the intention continues to be for BUSD workforce housing.
Correct? That is not changing as a result of these policy preferences for who is selected.
It's still workforce housing.
That's correct.
That's the 1st priority.
Okay, thank you very much.
Thank you.
And then just the other thing I wanted to make sure we were clarifying because I think there's some confusion about this as well for the 1st year free fill empty store funds act that was given a negative recommendation to take no action.
So that's what we would be agreeing to today on the consent calendar.
Although I know that this is an issue that many of us care, excuse me, care a lot about and we are really concerned about our small businesses, our local businesses.
So, I just wanted to make sure that we were clarifying that because I think that's what's so important to the to how Berkeley, you know, just the culture of our cities.
So thank you all so much to my colleagues.
I know we've got a motion on the floor.
I think we are ready to take the role.
Okay, to approve the consent calendar, including the policy committee recommendations on item 14 and 16 council member Kessler wanting.
Yes.
Yes, and mayor ishi.
Yes.
Okay.
Motion carries.
Thank you.
So at this time, I would like us to take just like a 10 minute break.
I think we've been sitting for a long time.
And as we've been saying, we really want to support people taking self care, using the restroom, eating something if they need to taking a stretch.
So we will be back in 10 minutes.
It is 822.
so 832 thanks everyone.
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Let's let's get back into it.
We still have the action calendar.
So let's get moving.
Okay, where are we at? Oh.
We just had we do need to.
Okay, so our 1st thing, our action calendar is a public hearing.
So, I, our item is number 17 appeal a special assessment tax lien 1806 Walnut street from the city manager.
And we have staff here to present, so I will pass it over to you.
Thank you.
Thank you, madam mayor.
Good evening.
Council members.
I'm Jordan client.
I'm director of planning and development.
We've joined at the staff staff table by angel, the supervising housing inspector.
And Jenny McNulty, the resilient buildings program manager who is going to present for staff, but yeah, go ahead.
Jenny.
All right, thank you.
So, I managed the rental housing safety program and several of our resilient buildings programs in the building and safety division.
And I'm going to give you some background and you move them like a little closer to you.
Please.
Thank you.
Just pull the whole thing.
Yeah, I'm going to give you some background.
About this lien appeal that we received for 1806 Walnut street and go over the staff recommendation.
So, Berkeley's rental housing safety program was established by the city council in 2001 and our function is to increase.
Tenant safety by requiring property owners to meet minimum.
Housing and property maintenance standards.
Those standards are established in the Berkeley municipal code in chapter, 19.40, which is the Berkeley housing code.
Now, in addition to responding to.
Tenant complaints and conducting housing inspections in response to those complaints.
We also do proactive housing inspections.
Now, 1806 Walnut street is a property that was selected for proactive inspections in 2012.
this is a building with 13 rental units and of those 5 units were selected for inspections.
The property is owned by Peter and Philip right and it's managed by a property management company, the K and S company.
And it's owned by the K and S company and it's owned by the K and S company and it's owned by the K and S company.
Now, council directed the rental housing safety program to expand proactive inspections.
As you can see on the slide in 2024, we opened up 3,272 new cases so this property was selected as part of this effort to expand our proactive inspections.
The fee schedule that was established by the city council, our inspection service fees were established in 2019.
so when a housing inspector goes out to do the initial inspection at a property.
Whether or not we find violations of the housing code.
There's no fee for that initial inspection, we then send out a notice of violation if we have identified violations.
And we provide a minimum of 30 days before coming back for a re inspection and there's a grace period so if that owner corrects all the violations, there's no charge for that re inspection.
But if we come out and they haven't corrected the violations, we charge $400 then we come out if we need to come out again.
And then we come out if we need to come out again.
And then we come out if we need to come out again.
The fee whether whether or not violations have been corrected is $600 and for subsequent inspections, it's $800 as you can see we charge an increasing fee amount to try to incentivize early compliance so that tenants are not left with substandard conditions in their unit.
In addition, we charge penalty fees also adopted by Council in 2019.
These these penalty fees are charged because somebody is delinquent in making a payment.
It is not related to whether or not they have corrected the violations of the property.
So when the housing inspector went to this property for their initial inspection.
They did find violations.
They were also non grounded and damaged electrical outlets and in the required locations in the kitchen, there was a lack of a GFC I interrupt which is ground fault circuit interrupter protection.
And then we have a fire alarm.
And why does this matter.
Well smoke alarms are one of the most fundamental safety features they allow.
And if there are damaged outlets missing GFC eyes or other electrical hazards.
There's a heightened risk of electric shock.
And then we have a fire alarm.
And when we did we shared with you all of the notice of notices of violation that were sent to the owner so the owner and the property manager was cc'd on these notices was noted that was given 30 days notice when each And then we have a fire alarm.
It should be present and.
If if the owner is not present we leave a door tag hanging on the door and they can call the inspector and and if their schedule allows inspector will also come back.
And then we have a fire alarm.
And then we have a fire alarm.
They claim that due to staff changes at the city there were miscommunications with the property manager and that that resulted in excessive and unnecessary fines.
And they were sent all the proper notices in a timely manner and the inspections followed all of our established procedures.
In addition, there are multiple staff who have reviewed the fees assessed and confirmed that they were assessed accurately.
The property manager also argued that penalty fees continued to accrue unfairly after the city determined units were in compliance and while an appeal was in progress.
As I explained earlier penalty fees accrue because owners are delinquent and making their payments, whether or not violations have been corrected.
And the owner was delinquent.
They filed their appeal on May the 26th of 2023.
We assess penalty fees in mid March, April and mid May because they had unpaid fees.
And we have actually gone ahead and adjusted them and adjusted out those $220.
And so the in the supplemental communication, the amount in the resolution has been adjusted to take out those fees that were assessed by our system after the appeal was received.
So, just to sum up our staff recommendation to Council is that you adopt a resolution denying the property owners appeal and authorizing the city manager to record the special assessment lien for 1806 Walnut Street for $6,230.
And I want to also just state that we are very consistent in the way we charge fees.
These are the same fees that are charged of all property owners who who have proactive inspections.
So Jordan Klein is just going to say a few words to conclude.
Thanks, Jenny.
So, thank you, council members.
I just want to emphasize, obviously, our rental housing safety program is very important to keeping tenants safe in Berkeley.
And in case it wasn't clear, our fee structure, it pays the salaries of the housing inspectors that go out and conduct the inspections.
And so these fees are really important to our program.
K&S, which is the company that manages the property subject to this appeal, manages many properties across Berkeley.
And we want to avoid a situation where we're setting precedent and are sending the message that people can choose not to pay their fees associated with this program.
So, and the staff recommendation that completes our presentation and will be available for questions.
Thanks.
Thank you so much.
Just so folks understand the process, we are supposed to give time for the appellant to speak as well as the appellant here to speak.
Yes, the panelist.
I'm sorry.
The appellant, Jonathan Hicks is on Zoom, so I can promote him to be a panelist so he can provide his comments and he has seven minutes to address the council.
And Mr.
Hicks, when you're ready to proceed, please do.
Can you hear us? There we go.
Can you guys hear me? Yes, we can hear you now.
Perfect.
All right.
Thank you.
Just give me one moment here.
I'm having a little bit issue with my Wi-Fi.
I was unable to sit at the office today, so I'm doing it from my house.
Just give me one.
Perfect.
All right.
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate your patience.
I'm here representing Peter Wright.
He's the owner of 1806 Walnut Street.
And I'm not arguing the fact that the violations were existing and that the fees were properly assessed.
We're just here asking that there may be some sort of reduction in the fees.
As you know, the property taxes cost for insurance, the yearly RHSP fees for the city of Berkeley, everything is increasing, as well as preventative maintenance.
In 1806 Walnut Street, it does have a lot of long-term tenants in which we are limited because of the AGA to how much we can increase every single year.
And we would like to continue to be able to provide preventative maintenance, maintain the building, and keep a nice environment for our tenants.
And with the fees that are assessed, we're kind of cutting into that.
And so the owner is reaching out to see if the council would take into consideration the previous things that I mentioned.
And if you could work with us with some sort of reduction.
Again, we do understand that violations existed in the units.
There was a misunderstanding.
Those violations were corrected.
And we're just, we understand that there will be some sort of fee assessed, but we're looking for some sort of reduction.
Thank you.
Okay.
We need to, I'm going to open the public hearing and take public comments.
And then, oh, wait.
Yes, and then I will wait.
No, I'm sorry.
I think this is my order is wrong here.
I actually think we're supposed to be taking questions.
Council questions only first.
Apologies.
My notes are wrong.
All right.
Council Member Humber, I know you had your hand up earlier, so I'm going to let you go first.
And then Council Member Trakob.
And keeping in mind that our parliamentarian machine is not working that well, feel free to give me a wave.
Sure.
Thank you, Madam Mayor.
I don't have any questions.
I have a motion though.
I would like to move to.
Council Member, I'm sorry, we, we'd have to close the public hearing.
So this is just time for council questions only.
Perfect.
Thank you.
I'll come back to you when we get to that part.
And Council Member Trakob.
Did you have questions? I do.
Thank you, Madam Mayor.
I just wanted to confirm from staff.
What was the date that these noncompliances were forced back to the city's attention? So, the, the.
Original, but the 1st inspection was in October of 2022.
And then the inspections continued in the early part of 2023.
So, at the date of each re, inspection.
The 1st inspection.
Was when we assessed as a result of each re, inspection, we assessed fees.
I, I couldn't tell you the exact date without looking it up, but it was in the early part of 2023 that we had these re, inspections.
Yeah, so well up for 2 years, you would say, right? Yeah, yeah, I have a question for the appellant.
So, when you said that you had been working with the property or the management company for well over 2 years.
Were there any efforts to seek relief from the city at that time? So, we've, we've been reaching out to the city over the last 2 and a half years, trying to get with this resolved.
I believe Harrison, and she was the 1 that was able to actually assist us to get where we are here today.
2 and a half years later.
And we did, we did talk to several other people in the process.
And unfortunately, it's, it's taken until now to kind of get some resolution to it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Any other council questions council member black be very quickly just to confirm the timeline as I read it.
It's more like a 6 month process, right? In terms of.
They were 1st notified in October 2022.
And then they were 2nd notified in December.
And then they were 3rd notified in May, but it was 6 months at that point.
But it looked like, if you look at that initial letter, the 1st inspection was in December, December 2022.
And then presumably several re, inspections in the early parts of May.
And do we know how many total inspections maybe like 3, 4 again? I'm just curious the total number of visits.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, 4 total visits.
Okay.
Thank you.
Any other questions.
Okay, we will take public comments on this matter only.
I see someone coming up just as a matter of business, being a business owner is interesting to me that landlords believe that their business is somehow separate than any other type of business and that it must.
It is a business.
It is a business.
And I know my employees and we cannot keep increasing our fees and we haven't increased the fees since 2007.
So, the fees have stayed the same yet we are responsible for providing and that's why it's so hard to be a business owner, except in the exemption of landlords, which they get to continuously raise.
It is a business and they have to provide things, including habitability and making sure that people's life condition is not substandard.
And thank you for the work you do.
Thank you for your comment, Madam Mayor city council members.
Thank you.
Mike well, I'd like to ask this question if somebody can answer it like I'm wondering how long the business owners have owned the building.
I think that's very interesting.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems on the customers that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
There are regulations over the rental housing industry.
There's a rule that they have to abide by and business owners have to make do with this is the business.
They're doing so to blame the consumers on their problems on how they're running their business is a problem.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
There's a rule that a lot of 2 weeks ago we were here where we're talking about developers and developers are talking about their products their products which are the rental housing units again here we have a business owner.
There's a rule that they have to abide by and business owners have to make do with this is the business owner.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
Thank you.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
There's a rule that they have to hire.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
There's a rule that they have to hire.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
The management company is the one that actually does all the associated.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
The landlord is apparently complaining that they can't pay the fees it's too.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
I'm going to hit on some of the problems that they're providing a service to in Berkeley.
Wandering along.
Other other comments online? Yes.
Yes, there's one commenter online and that is Maria soll.
I know I've mentioned a few bazillion times that I've been in the construction trades for over 50 years, coast to coast and that I really care about property maintenance and about preventing harm and that I also involved with countless tenants and homeowners that are suffering uninhabitable and dangerous and unsafe living situation.
So, I really appreciate the inspections I've mentioned to a number of people and the different commissions that things that are inspected are often not really except that I'm sure we are doing a better job.
Now I really also I've had a tremendous amount of experience with property managers who again, perhaps are ethical, perhaps function and care for the building and the tenants.
But my experience, especially with these huge property management companies, is that it's another way of loading the financial cost and not delivering on what it is that they're supposed to be doing.
So I have been inspected and I have done inspections and I have visited homes that and and buildings and where people in all sorts of different property configurations abide.
It's not safe.
It must be safe.
There must be compliance.
I was held to account and I really want people to be safe and care for there shouldn't be mold and electrical fires.
I mean, endless things.
So I bring this lengthy direct experience in the trades and in the mismanagement and bloated exploit exploitive cost.
And yet I also know that some business owners are struggling.
Thank you.
Your time is up.
Thank you so much for your comment.
Is that our final comment online? Yes.
Okay.
Is there a motion to close the public hearing? So moved a 2nd, 2nd.
Okay, we need to take the role.
I believe.
Okay.
To close the public hearing council member kisser wanting.
Yes, Kaplan.
Yes.
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Council members, are there any members of the Council that would like to make a motion to bring this case to us? Yes.Bartlett? Yes.
Tregub? Aye.
O'Keefe? Yes.
Blackaby? Yes.
Lunaparra? Yes.
Humbert? Yes.
And Mayor Ishii? Yes.
Okay.
Okay, now moving on to Council deliberations.
Council member Tregub, did you have a comment or? Comment and a motion.
Yes, I do.
Thank you for bringing this case to us.
It's rare that a rental housing safety program appeals come this far, so I appreciate this.
This is a new experience for me to, well, both on the dais and to just observe this.
But what I know about the RHSP program is that it was actually set up in response to a tragic fire in which several then UC Berkeley students tragically passed away.
And it took some time for that program to be set up in a way that is robust in terms of the enforcement mechanism.
I, you know, generally, and I'm thinking about all the times we've heard appeals when I was on the rent board.
There are ways to reduce the amount if it is in the interest of justice.
Maybe it's a small property owner, maybe they don't have the operating capital, whatever.
There is this question to look at that.
In this case, staff, just to confirm what you said, K&S is one of the largest operating management companies operating in Berkeley.
In my experience, they are a fairly sophisticated property management that is either aware or should be aware of all the rules for operating a property in Berkeley.
And between that and the multiple attempts to re-inspect and the property manager or owner not being present, it's a little challenging for me to be sympathetic right now.
Now, this property may be in the district that I serve, but it could be anywhere in Berkeley.
And I would feel the same way if this was the exact set of circumstances.
You know, if God forbid I forgot to pay my credit on time, penalties would still accrue in addition to the amount that I was owed.
If I fail to pay a citation on time, which I confess I have done once before, I would not be able to get a free pass just for paying it late.
Council Member, did you have a motion? And so with all that in mind, I move the staff recommendation as described in Supplemental Packet 1.
Second.
Okay, can you take the roll, please, unless anyone else has other comments? Okay, calling the roll on the motion to approve the staff recommendation as written in Supplemental Communication Packet 1.
All in favor? Aye.
Council Member Kastorwani? Yes.
Kaplan? Yes.
Bartlett? Yes.
Traigub? Aye.
O'Keefe? Yes.
Blackabay? Yes.
Alunapara? Yes.
Humbert? Yes.
And Mayor Ishii? Yes.
Okay, motion carries.
Thank you so much.
And thank you so much to staff for all of your hard work.
All right.
So moving on to the next action item, which is adopt an ordinance to prohibit the sale or use of algorithmic devices to set rents or manage occupancy levels for residential dwelling units.
And this came from the Housing Advisory Commission.
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Do you have something you'd like to present from the Housing Action Committee? Yes.
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Please do.
My apologies.
Please start whenever you're ready and just move the mics as close to you as possible because sometimes it can be hard to hear.
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I'm sorry.
We want to turn off the video.
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Is there someone that can help them? Do you need help? Okay.
I think Rose is going to come.
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So can we just send the presentation or is there something else that we can do? Okay.
Great.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate your help, Rose.
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Thank you.
I won't pass on the irony of a tech item and trying to get our PowerPoint set up.
Hi, everyone.
My name is Rose.
I'm the past president, past president, past chair of the housing advisory commission.
I'm here this evening with Leah Simon Weisberg, the current chair, and we are here before you this evening.
Honorable mayor members of the city council to recommend that you approve an ordinance that prohibits the use of algorithmic devices to set rents or manage occupancy levels.
This occurs when landlords delegate their rental pricing and supply decisions to a common decision maker.
That decision maker is a third party.
Could be a trade association.
It could be a company that offers management software.
Landlords who should be competing with each other as to price share data with this common third party decision maker.
And that then decision maker provides daily pricing and ongoing revenue oversight.
You all might be familiar with the concept of dynamic pricing.
That's what this is essentially with the daily pricing.
So rather than functioning as separate economic entities, these participating landlords make key competitive decisions regarding their rent and their inventory of units collectively.
So rather than competing, and I will say that it's important to know that the sharing of sensitive data and pricing information is not in a competitor's self interest unless they know that their fellow competitors are also sharing their proprietary and sensitive data and that together they are making collective decisions.
And the results of this action is you drive up rents and it amounts to illegal price fixing.
So I've talked about what automatic rent setting is and now I want to touch a little bit on what it is not.
Automatic rent setting does not mean that individual landlords who are independently researching websites such as Zillow or Craigslist to set rents are engaged in automated rent setting.
It also is not landlords who don't coordinate with one another to set rents and it is not landlords who rent units as vacancies arise and who don't hold vacant units off the market.
So now that I've talked about what automated rent setting is and what it isn't, what is RealPage? RealPage, according to its own website, provides property management software, data analytics, and services to efficiently manage rental properties and real estate.
For several years, RealPage and its rent setting software, YieldStar, which is the algorithmic device, has been the subject of controversy and they've pretty much been the subject of controversy since they entered the rental housing market with their algorithmic software devices.
And this past fall, the DOJ filed a lawsuit against RealPage, accusing them of being a monopoly.
They are thought to control up to 80% of the property management software market across the country.
And if you want to know what the folks who work with RealPage, the property management companies and the landlords, how they define what RealPage is, quote, this is a quote, We are all technically competitors, but RealPage helps us to work together to make us all more successful in our pricing.
RealPage is designed to work with the community in pricing strategies, not work separately.
We rarely make any overrides to the pricing recommendations.
So that's how clients define what RealPage is.
So what the accusation is is that this kind of sharing of information collectively and not competitively is illegal price fixing.
And the kind of illegal price fixing that is being done is called hub and spoke price fixing.
And the way it works is that you have a centralized company, a trade association, a data broker, a software algorithm that facilitates illegal agreements amongst competitors, landlords in the market.
RealPage is the hub and the landlords who depend on its recommendations regarding rent levels are the spokes.
And by agreeing to follow the rent recommendations using competitively sensitive and or proprietary data, landlords tacitly agree to fix rents without the need to directly compete with each other.
This system allows landlords to conspire to limit rental supply and drive up rents, creating a cartel in the legal parlance.
So this slide is a visual that just illustrates what a hub and spoke price fixing scheme looks like.
And you can see that in this depiction, RealPage is a hub.
And then these are some of the major property management firms across the country, many of them who are defendants in class action lawsuits, who are the spokes in this hub and spoke system.
There has been because there is an accusation of illegal price fixing, there's been a fair amount of legal action to date.
There have been over 30 class action lawsuits that have been filed against RealPage and the landlords who use the software.
As I mentioned, the DOJ sued RealPage in the fall of 2024, both for its monopoly control of the software market for rental housing and because it facilitates this illegal price fixing scheme.
And once DOJ filed its lawsuit, eight attorneys general, including the attorney general of California, joined this DOJ lawsuit.
There have also been legislative actions that have occurred.
San Francisco and Philadelphia have banned the sale and use of these pricing algorithms, and a number of local jurisdictions and a few states are considering similar bans.
And right now, there are four bills to ban the sale and use of pricing algorithms that have been introduced in the California legislature.
So as I mentioned at the outset, we're here to recommend that the city council adopt an ordinance that would ban the sale and use of these algorithmic devices in the city of Berkeley.
And what's our rationale for this recommendation? 57% of Berkeley's population are renters.
People of color are three times more likely to be renters than homeowners.
60% of Berkeley tenants are lower income, and half of all renters in the city of Berkeley are rent burdened.
In addition, we've seen an increase in corporate concentration in the housing market over the last several years, and the city's rent stabilization staff did a preliminary high-level look to see if Berkeley was being impacted by this corporate ownership and consolidation.
And just at the high level, they identified six property management firms who have been named as defendants in other class action lawsuits, controlling about 1,300 units in the city of Berkeley.
So this is an issue that is important for the renters in the city of Berkeley and an opportunity to alleviate rapidly increasing rents for Berkeley residents.
And just by way of a little more rationale and some background data points, over the last nine years, rents have increased 19% throughout the East Bay.
The city's housing element notes that rents for rent controlled and market rate units have increased dramatically over the past decade.
The city's black population has declined rapidly over the last 20 years due to rising housing costs in the city.
The use of these devices is illegal price fixing, and it negatively impacts the rental market by artificially inflating rents and creating housing scarcity.
So why take local action? There have been numerous lawsuits, as I've mentioned, that have been filed throughout the country, but those lawsuits could take years to litigate.
And while these lawsuits are going through the legal process, tenants are not realizing the benefits of an ordinance that would make the use of these algorithmic devices illegal in their jurisdiction.
Acting locally will ban these practices to protect tenants now without waiting.
Therefore, we, the hack is recommending that the city council adopt an ordinance banning the sale and use of algorithmic devices to set rents and manage occupancy rates.
I believe that you all have received a letter of support from tech equity, and that letter of support has a couple amendments that they believe and say will strengthen the proposed ordinance by updating the definition of algorithmic devices.
We also have a recommendation that the city council adopt an ordinance banning algorithmic devices and including algorithms that use all data, not just nonpublic data.
So council may want to consider those recommendations that were included in tech equities letter.
And with that, we are concluding our presentation and both commissioner Simon Weisberg and myself are available to answer any questions.
Thank you.
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Are there any clarifying questions? Before we move on to public comment? Okay, let's move on to public comment.
Just want to check with our city clerk, just make sure our time is okay on the clock and everything.
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Fantastic.
My name is Jason O'Connor.
I'm the city clerk for the East Baystone World Democratic Club, the Wellstone Democratic Renewal Club, and the Berkeley Tenants Union, as well as the head of the Berkeley Tenant Organizing Task Force.
I'm also a student and a tenant in Berkeley, and I've had friends who have been pushed out of the city because of rent burden.
I'm here to stand in support of item 18 because we must stop the cartelization of our rent prices.
We must be clear that just because this new era of price-fixing is done using apps and algorithms rather than explicit conversation between landlords, the effects of price-fixing remain the same.
It harms tenants, and it lines the profits of large corporate landlords at the expense of everyday Berkeleyans.
Thank you very much for your time.
Thank you.
I'm in support of this item, but I hope at some point that someone develops this item by reviewing how algorithmic devices are used to have a discriminatory impact on screening of tenants.
There have been studies that this is done, that marginalized persons are often excluded from housing based on the use of these types of devices.
So I am hoping that someone brings forward that type of item.
The city is doing really good things with homeless housing and also with the expanding of the in-lieu units, the inclusionary units for additional Section 8 and Shelter Plus.
But the reality is that people still have difficulty in Berkeley with vouchers and with subsidies.
Despite the 2017, it was..
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you very much for your presentation.
My name is Nagin.
I've spoken a few times tonight, and I'm chair of the Berkeley Tenant Union.
In my capacity as such, and personally, I want to support item 18.
Housing is the biggest financialized global commodity in the history of mankind.
And this type of AI price fixing only makes it worse.
Did you..
I'm just question..
Clarifying question.
Did you say that six landlords in Berkeley own 36,000 units? How many? Okay.
1,600.
You said something about six landlords.
It's unbelievable how one person can have control over so many people's lives and the possibility of them staying in Berkeley or not, and then colluding with other people and creating this type of monopoly only makes it much harder.
I'm glad that you guys are taking this up, and I hope it passes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hello.
Thank you very much for HAC members and Madam Mayor, City Council members.
I also am speaking in favor, and I hope that you would adopt an ordinance that would look at preventing AI from setting prices.
This is another example of housing being looked at as a product.
Two weeks ago, we were here.
They're talking about the new fees, and they presented it as products.
Here, landlords, business owners are looking at their products.
But the product that they're selling is a service.
They're providing a service, and so consumers should be protected, and this is a perfect opportunity to protect the consumers in this rental housing industry.
So I ask that you please consider protecting the consumers and pass an ordinance that would benefit the consumers here.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hi.
I'm Shane.
I'm speaking in my personal capacity in support of Item 18.
As an RA, I'm working with a myriad of students as they navigate the housing system for the first time, and price is a huge concern.
A particular group of tenants navigates the process with fear and uncertainty with less metrics to determine what is a fair price or lease.
It's evident from the prior presentation that this program is predatory.
I'm unsure how exactly it uses AI in its operations, but AI in and of itself is not a reliable source for social issues.
First, generative AI is consistently false, which anyone who sees AI Google results will be familiar with.
Secondly, AI is trained on the Internet and is thereby a cumulative amalgamation of every inhumane bias that it trains its algorithm on.
Any rental pricing that relies on a system shown time and time again to be not only biased but outright false is both ridiculous and predatory.
I urge you to vote yes on Item 18 and approve Councilmember Lunaparra's supplemental.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council.
I've got one minute ceded to me by the gentleman in the back.
My name is Solly Alpert.
I'm the chair of the Berkeley Rent Stabilization Board and speaking in strong support of the item as it's been modified by the supplemental submitted by Councilmember Lunaparra.
Obviously, as someone concerned with tenant protections and the affordability of housing in our community, it's vitally important.
But also, just as another commenter mentioned, as a basic consumer standpoint, it's really sad that we even have to be here putting this forward if the laws, our federal laws around anti-competitive behavior were better enforced.
This would have been totally illegal and would have been shut down long before.
But we know, unfortunately, that big business has controlled a lot of our federal regulatory apparatuses.
And so, luckily, we have resources that we can put to use at the city level to combat this kind of behavior.
And this is one really common-sense way to do that.
Right? You know, unfortunately, we live in a world where the market sets the price of housing.
I wish that weren't the case.
But if we are going to live in that world, then the market should be regulated appropriately and the competitors in that market should actually be in competition.
And if they are engaging in this kind of anti-competitive behavior, in this kind of collusion, this kind of cartel, then that's not happening.
Rents aren't being set based on the market.
They're being set based on a skewed market that hurts Berkeley's community.
So I'd urge you to pass the strongest possible version of this legislation as submitted in your supplemental this evening.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I also strongly support this measure to item 18, that is, to prevent the housing in Berkeley from being further cartelized and price fixed.
I say further because this already goes on.
While this would rapidly and exponentially accelerate the cartelization of housing, the cartels already exist.
One such is the Berkeley Property Owners Association, which masquerades as a trade group, but they have their meetings.
What do you suppose all these property owners who call themselves rental housing providers talk about in their meetings with each other? It doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to figure out that they're not really in competition.
Thank you.
Thanks for your comment.
Hello, my name is Alan.
I'm a renter in Elmwood.
And I support the general kind of idea of this, but I just want to separate the two issues and not confound them.
One issue is the use of non-public data.
The other issue is the use of algorithmic device.
So I want to make sure that the Council understands that.
I think the core issue is the non-public data segment, and that's kind of the price-fixing issue that is being sued under RealPage.
If we ban use of algorithmic devices, I think you're creating issues for a lot of landlords who may use any sort of software to be able to control rent.
A lot of times, rent is inefficiently set.
It might be too high, and the algorithm may actually recommend that landlords lower their rent to be able to reduce their vacancy, reduce their time spent idling their property.
And that incentivizes both landlords and tenants.
So the issue in a housing-scarce market, obviously, is going to look like the pricing is too high, but if we get more housing, then that will also push pricing down, and the algorithm can detect that.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Any other public comments online? There's..
Hello? Oh, sorry.
Yes.
There's four public commenters.
First is David Shearer.
Hi.
David Shearer, Housing Advisory Commission.
I'm speaking only for myself.
I am speaking in favor of this item tonight, in particular the text as recommended by HAC and not in the supplemental.
I want to make sure that we are clear about what this is about and what it's not about.
This is about anti-competitive collusion and market manipulation.
It's about landlords making more money by declining to compete against each other for tenants.
Folks are talking about algorithms and AI.
This is not about algorithmic price setting.
The problem is not that the price came from a computer.
The problem is collusion.
What the technology is doing is making that collusion more scalable and more efficient, but the main story here is not algorithms.
It's a cartel of landlords colluding rather than competing.
We should not overstate the impact.
Banning RealPage will not fix our housing crisis.
We need to build a lot of new housing at all income levels, but cartels like RealPage can have a meaningful impact on the housing market and housing prices.
It is totally unnecessary, and I hope you will approve this item as recommended by HAC.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Next is a caller with a phone number ending in 538.
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Caller with a phone number ending in 538.
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We'll go to somebody else.
Kelly Hammergren? Thank you.
I'm pleased to see this on the agenda, and it was several months ago when I started reading about RealPage, which was maximizing rents over filling units.
And so maximizing rent to leave vacant units seems to me to be very concerning.
So that's all I'll say about it.
I hope you pass it.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
All right.
We'll go back to the caller with the number ending in 538.
I'd just like to mention two things very quickly.
The first house I bought in Berkeley was in Kragman.
In 1968, it was $28,000.
The second one in Euclid was $101,000.
What happened to housing prices is unreal.
It's totally unreal.
The fact is a lot of money coming out from foreign money that is owned by what's called private equity firms, and you're destroying those housing in the whole country.
The other point I'd like to make, we live in an earthquake country, and what Trump did ending that NOAA, we're in big, big, big trouble.
NOAA is very important to earthquakes, to ships, to weather, to everything.
This man really should be impeached as soon as possible.
Otherwise, we're not going to have a country.
Thank you.
And I'm sorry.
My apology to Mayor Aragon and to the City Council people.
I just got excited to look back at the last four years and not very happy about that.
But thank you again.
Always great city.
Always love this city.
Have a good night.
Okay.
Next is Maria Sol.
Yes.
Thank you again.
I'm so glad we're still all here.
I support this, as I did the other one, because this is basically a callback to the Berkeley values that we've been speaking about all night, whether it's the othering and the hate or the division and the violence and the lack of safety.
You know, it's all the same thing.
It's either all of us or none of us.
We've got a few globally that are exploiting and pillaging and plundering at the expense of the rest of us, and it's not going to work.
So here's to Berkeley coming together and not letting a few property owners or realtors, hedge funds, et cetera, take possession of our hearts and souls, because housing is necessary for everybody.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Is there one more person? Two more.
Two more people.
Next is Krista.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mayor and Council.
Krista Goldranson, Executive Director of the Berkeley Property Owners Association.
I'm honestly really just trying to suss out and understand the difference in this proposal, which is different than San Francisco's, in that it wants to prohibit algorithmic devices that use both private and public data.
So Zillow uses algorithms to set its suggested rents to anybody who is viewing, anybody in the public who is viewing.
And so as far as I read this proposal and ordinance, it would actually prohibit the use of anybody looking at any public data.
That could be inclusive of the rent registry, even if someone takes that public data and inputs it into an algorithmic device.
So I'm having a hard time understanding that.
I'm also having a very difficult time understanding how the 1,300 identified units that are part of the real page lawsuit in Berkeley, how those 1,300 units are using an algorithmic device to set all rents in Berkeley.
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Council member Humbert, I know you, I think you had your hand up first.Thank you, Madam Mayor.
It's easy for me to do that online.
We've read through these these two, and I think we've all read through them.
And I can't support either version of this item tonight.
And my primary reason is that the definitions.
In both versions, but especially the definition and the supplemental.
Are overbroad and likely unenforceable.
The way the original version defines algorithmic device and competitor data.
Could, as we've been discussing, prevent a landlord from using.
Their own nonpublic records to inform their decisions about rent levels and vacancies.
If a majority, additionally, I would like to see algorithmic device.
Changed algorithmic software, if it were to pass, or something similar.
With attendant changes, but I think this is not ready.
For, you know, being able to do that.
This is not ready to pass it.
It would need a substantial amount of work.
Before it made a whole lot of sense and was.
Precise and targeted enough for us to.
To to a doc.
Even even so.
The, the pricing algorithm.
Definition in the supplemental.
Is any analytical or computation processes.
That use data to recommend or predict the price of consumer goods.
Or services this definition is really, really important.
Although the ordinance provides additional examples of the more specific pricing.
Algorithms in mind, it does not adopt.
A more limited definition that could withstand scrutiny.
So, I would like to see.
A more specific pricing.
Algorithms.
So, you know, I think under this broad definition, a couple trying to rent out their.
And plugging a bunch of rental information.
From Craig's list into an Excel spreadsheet.
To find an average rent in their area would fall into the prohibition.
In other under either ordinance, it's at best ambiguous whether something like Zillow's rental services, which rely on public and private data would be illegal for people to use in Berkeley.
I also think the ordinances, both of the.
Versions as written are imprecise in a number of ways.
For example, they currently allow tenants a private right of action.
But theoretically, the people most affected would be prospective tenants.
So, as written, these ordinance don't provide.
And if we're going to open the door to prospective tenants, using a private right of action, this needs to be carefully prescribed to prevent abuse.
I think another issue with these proposals overall.
Is that they don't provide a legal avenue.
For tenants to use.
So, if we're going to open the door to prospective tenants, using a private right of action.
This needs to be carefully prescribed to prevent abuse.
This needs to be carefully prescribed to prevent abuse.
I think another issue with these proposals overall.
Is the difficulty really and this probably is the crux of the biscuit.
Is the difficulty approving such tools have been used as a city.
We don't have the resources to conduct the level of investigation.
Necessary to establish whether a landlord used illegal algorithms, especially if they tried to do so.
There's nothing about a particular asking rent level.
Or vacancy that would, in and of itself qualifies evidence.
That such an algorithm was used.
Establishing that such an algorithm was used.
Would essentially require seizing computers.
And subpoenaing records from the landlords.
The service providers.
And this differs from so many of the other ways.
In which we regulate rentals, where the evidence of wrongdoing.
Would be much plainer in physical form.
In communications with tenants, or in landlords, discriminatory actions toward.
Perspective tenants.
You know, and saying all this.
I want to emphasize that I think Anna and I competitive behavior.
And price fixing by large market actors is bad.
And something we should try to crack down on.
At a higher level, but I don't think this makes sense.
And I think that's what we need to do.
And I think that's what's for us to do here.
This is because we don't have the resources.
I have something like an attorney general's office.
Or the department of justice.
And because I think the nuance and enforcement are difficult to get.
Right.
Finally, looking at the big picture.
I think that we see from the data.
That the single most important thing we can do.
Is to prevent.
You know, price fixing schemes this ordinance aims to prevent only work.
When there's scarcity and oligopoly in the market.
And to pretend that these devices somehow are leading.
To high rents really is a gross.
Oversimplification.
I want the city to stay focused on the areas.
Where we can make the biggest difference with the resources.
And I think that's what we need to do.
And I think that's what we need to do.
And I think that's what we need to do.
And I think that's what we need to do.
And I think that's what we need to do.
I'm more and more strained as we move forward into this new era.
So, I, I'd like to make a motion to reject.
Both proposals.
I'll second for the purposes of discussion.
Okay, there, the next person to speak is council member.
And I'm going to reserve myself a spot after.
Okay, thank you.
So, I'd like to make a motion to based on feedback from advocacy organizations.
Tech equity members of the housing advisory commission and the city attorney's office.
I introduced a supplemental item to clarify some definitions and close potential loopholes and.
Councilman has co-sponsored co-sponsored the item.
So I appreciate that.
I'm concerned that the positive effects of our city strong action towards building more housing may be curbed by this kind of collusion.
Also, frankly, this is the kind of legislation that's best taken up at the regional level.
So I hope that this is 1 step towards broader legislation to stop the cooperation.
Between competitors to manipulate the housing market.
I have also incorporated further feedback from the city council's resident tech expert council member.
And I'm grateful for his collaboration as well.
The city attorney's office reviewed these technical changes this afternoon, and I'd like to thank them for their quick responses and collaboration.
I'm going to share my screen in a 2nd to show these technical changes to my supplemental.
I need to.
Give me 1 2nd.
I need to be able to join the meeting.
I'm so sorry.
I'm going to share my screen.
I need to be able to join the meeting.
I'm so sorry.
I'll just say that.
And then, yeah, let's go.
Yeah, I'm back.
So there's 2 main changes, 1, large, 1, small, 1, 1, clarifying the definition of pricing algorithms to make sure that direct or indirect.
And 1, small, 1, large, 1, 1, small, 1, 1, clarifying the definition of pricing algorithms to make sure that direct or indirect coordination with competitors, including through third active.
3rd party vendors is illegal under this ordinance and 1, smaller change to remove the explicit naming of the East Bay rental housing association and the property properties.
Property owners association in finding section F.
So.
Give me a 2nd while I pull that up.
I'm so sorry.
Sure.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And thank you to our presenters, including D6 is nominee to the or commissioner to the housing advisory commission.
And thank you to council member Luna Parra, who's been so willing to take feedback.
And think through these issues.
I share a lot of the feedback from folks at this meeting.
That algorithms in and of themselves aren't good or bad.
You could certainly envision an algorithm to help renters, for example, gather wide swaths of data across an entire market to help them make an informed decision about what they should be willing to pay.
That'd be a great algorithm, right? That'd be a great LLM.
That'd be a great use of technology.
To give them access to data to make informed decisions about what they should be willing to pay.
So, I'm just a marketer.
I have no practical knowledge whatsoever.
Well, good policy.
That's great.
So anyway.
So algorithms in and of themselves aren't good or bad.
You could certainly envision an algorithm to help renters, for example, gather wide swaths of data across an entire market to help renters, that'd be a great use of technology.
To give them access to data to make informed decisions.
Similarly, you could envision algorithm.
Neutral algorithm to help landlords survey the market and determine a fair price.
To market to rent out a unit that also could be a great use.
And a fair use of an algorithm.
So to me, the problem isn't the tech per se, it's the collusion.
It's the coordination among competitors in an anti-competitive way.
Kind of behind the scenes.
Outside of the free and fair market that we're concerned about.
And so any technology that facilitates that kind of coordination and joint price setting.
No matter what the source of the data is, it's the coordination and the collusion amongst the market players.
I think is the problem.
So when council member Lunapara shows you, we worked a lot on the definition of pricing algorithm to try and introduce that it's.
Thank you.
We added the highlighted parts in yellow, that it's not just the analytical or computation process that uses data recommended to predict the price.
It's indirect or indirect coordination with one or more competitors, including potentially through a third party vendor.
The other thing we did is we've made the other section plural because I'm less, again, less concerned about one landlord using one piece of technology and setting a price in isolation.
But jointly, if landlords together are making decisions together about vacancy or about pricing.
Again, that to me is more problematic.
So one other broader point, and then I'll cede my time.
Our point is as a city, we should support innovation.
We should support technology.
We have a world class campus right down the street.
And so I want to make it clear that as a city, we support smart thinkers.
We support development of AI.
We support development of technology that makes things better.
We support technology that makes things more transparent, that makes markets more transparent.
And accessing more data to make more informed decisions is a good thing, but we don't support collusion.
We do not allow collusion.
Collusion is illegal in our rental marketplace.
And so that's, I think the balance we were trying to strike here.
Last thing I think I'll mention, and we may not fix this tonight.
And we've been talking to city attorney is what we actually call it.
We're calling it here pricing algorithm.
I think we could probably even be more accurate to say that it's something about, and this isn't exactly right, but market setting algorithm or price fixing or price control.
There's something about it because again, in and of itself, I don't have a problem with pricing algorithms.
I have a problem with algorithms that facilitate collusion.
And that's really what we're trying to regulate here.
So thank you to customer Luna para for indulging me.
And hopefully we can get this balance.
Right.
Thank you.
Yes.
Moving on to council member Bartlett.
Thank you.
And I thank you for bringing this forward.
And I mean, we had a great talk about this at the, the committee.
And we discussed the, the entity can have practices and collusion inherent in this.
We, we talked about the, the erosion of tenant protections that come as a result.
And there's further GDPR, California, privacy protection, data concerns.
The, the, the trending towards housing discrimination and systematizing it and this overall, this tech monopolization, this, this, this algorithmic AI.
Capture of the American consumer.
And we see it in pricing for airplane tickets.
We see it in, in everything, anything you shop on, depending on what time of day you get a different price or it knows your, it knows your, your banking information.
It knows how much money you make get a different price.
It's turning into a real prison for people.
And as my colleague was saying, Mr.
Black could be, you know, this, this technology, I think this is really the first time we've been, we're going to the first of many times, we're going to have to come out with some guidance on how to use this new force.
That's coming into our world and it is neutral, but we need to get ahold of it and make it positive.
And that means making work for people and not against people.
So, you know, I think really need to, to, to pass this.
I like the, I like the changes made in the supplemental by my colleagues.
It addresses, I think some of the, the concerns raised by a council member.
He's not here.
Humbert there you are.
There you are.
Humbert and, and, and really describes the, the, the hub and spoke nature of it and this anti-competitive model.
And in the absence of any real federal enforcement, unless so as we see day by day, I think we have to stick up for our residents here.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Moving on to council member.
Thank you.
I just had one question.
You mentioned that there was pending state legislation.
Are you able to, to share what those bills are? I think your mic is not on.
Yeah.
Just put and pull it close to you.
There we go.
It's so funny after so many years of being up there to be on this side and have to learn how to use these mics again.
There are 4, I don't have, I could pull up in a minute.
I had them up, but I don't have them, The tech equity has been, has been working closely with one of the bills.
And this, that the definitions that were recommended, that were the base of.
The.
And try group suggestions are reflected in that.
I just, I think that.
You know, it's unclear that we've been doing, you know, there have been state bills that are across the country.
This one is more modeled off of San Francisco's.
And I think that, you know, that regional impact is going to be very, very important.
I mean, I hope the state passes it because that'll make a huge difference.
You know, gray star.
Not only is one of the bigger players in, I teach at the law school previously known as Hastings, and I taught this.
Legislation.
I do antitrust as one of the topics, and I've never had so many students talk to me about it.
And I think that, you know, I think it's important for us to be able to.
You know, I think it's important for us to be able to.
You know, We, I do antitrust as one of the topics, and I've never had so many students talk because they all live in the student housing overseen by gray star.
And they talk about how 3 of the floors are empty.
And they use, they're using the algorithm for that student housing.
And they are using that student, that algorithm on our student housing here.
And so I think it will make a huge difference.
I've just great.
Would stop using it.
And our students wouldn't have to spend as much on housing as they are on their tuition.
So I think that we really need to do it right away.
I mean, in February is when our rents are highest in Berkeley, because all the students are looking for housing because of that algorithm.
And so I hope we, you know, I hope that this, the, at the state level, these bills pass, but we've had 1 of the federal level, I think on 3 years.
That was introduced as soon as the pro publica article came out.
And so I think it's going to make a huge difference.
I think it's going to make a huge difference.
I think it's going to make a huge difference.
I think it's going to make a huge difference.
But I can, I can provide the, the floor bill numbers.
And I believe that at least 2 of them have already come together.
Thank you.
Did you have other questions or comments council member? That's all.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Moving on to actually.
I think it's supposed to be council member key for some reason, yours was flashing.
It's confused.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for these changes.
They have scratched an itch that I had.
It was really, really good.
And as council member said, I teach computer science.
These words.
Mean something to me and I don't they've been used.
I'm talking about the original language and I'm sorry for whoever wrote it.
I don't mean to, you know, be too mean to you, but I just want to point out like algorithm.
I don't mean to be too mean to you, but I just want to point out like algorithm.
We think it means like, I mean, software, it means something computer.
No, an algorithm is actually, it's a series of instructions that accomplishes something.
A device is like.
A thing and data is information.
So, I mean, you.
I'm like, using an algorithm on a device when I'm cooking from a recipe and I have a digital thermometer.
I'm like, using an algorithm on a device when I'm cooking from a recipe and I have a digital thermometer.
So, I mean, the notions that this isn't really, this could capture normal behavior that any landlord would engage in, I think, was legitimate.
Concern before, but I really like these, these edits, the red ones, and then all the yellow ones even more because it really as black could be said very well, this really.
I mean, I don't want to say that the scenarios that were described by our wonderful presenters are bad.
We want to stop this from happening.
Absolutely.
And I think that with these edits, this is actually very well tailored out to actually do that.
So I'll be supporting it.
And thank you for thanks everyone for your work.
Thank you.
Council member councilmember.
Thank you.
I would like to see if the council member Luna power if it was your intent to introduce a substitute motion.
Yes, thank you so much.
Yes, I will let her make the motion.
Go ahead.
Okay, so I'm going to make a motion to introduce a substitute motion for rental 2 with these changes that are highlighted here.
And this change that's highlighted here, which is removing the naming of.
The property owners association and East Bay rental housing association, and I will send that to the clerk's office as well.
Thank you.
I just wanted to make a comment.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't see.
I just wanted to make 1 comment just to say, you know, about addressing some concerns about this potentially being illegal or unconstitutional just to comment on the fact that this has happened in other states, counties, et cetera, and that we've also had our city attorney's office go over it.
So, I just want to make that comment because I think that's important.
Council member.
Yes, thank you very much, madam mayor and thank you council member Luna for this supplemental and thank you council member black could be for the amendment.
I think I feel more comfortable supporting this now with this change that we are defining this as indirect or indirect coordination with 1 or more competitors.
I share the concern that council member raised about enforcement, but I think that.
All in all on balance.
Passing this and saying that we don't support this type of price collusion is a reasonable thing to do.
So I, I'll just respectfully withdraw my.
2nd of council member Humbert's motion, and I'm prepared to support support this with the amendments.
Thank you.
Okay, then I would ask the clerk to take role unless there are any other comments.
Okay, thank you.
On the motion by council member Luna para to adopt the ordinance and supplemental number 2 with the additional changes made.
All in favor.
Aye.
On the dice council member because they're wanting.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
And Mary she.
Yes.
Okay, motion carries.
Thank you for that.
That was an excellent agenda item and it reminds me of the boundaries.
So, thank you.
I really appreciate it reminds me of game night.
Anyway.
So, there was a German in memory of Polly Armstrong, the former district 8 city council member again, there was a very touching tribute from council member Humbert that was said earlier.
Thank you for clarifying.
Yes, for folks who did not speak earlier.
On the same area.
Okay.
There's no.
Zoom hands, so we can measure in the meeting if there's a motion.
Yes.
Is there a motion again? Thank you.
Seconded second.
Is there a 2nd.
Okay, to adjourn the meeting council member.
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All right.
Thank you all so much.
Thank you to staff and thank you so much to my council members.